More New iPAQ Reviews And Links!

[Janak Parekh]

Haven't had enough iPAQ stuff yet today? 8O Well, here's some more reading for you: <li> PC Magazine has reviews for the <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1627000,00.asp">rz1710</a>, <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1626991,00.asp">rx3715</a>, <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1626988,00.asp">hx4700</a>, and <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1626997,00.asp">h6315</a>;<br /><li> PocketNow has the <a href="http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=441">rz1710</a> and <a href="http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=440">h6315</a>;<br /><li> and PC World has the iPAQ <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,117050,00.asp">h6315</a>. Not enough for you? <a href="http://www.engadget.com/entry/0894670680278768/">Engadget</a> has even more. Plus, check out HP's <a href="http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2004/ipaq/images.html">press kit</a> on the new devices, with datasheets and high-res images. Me, I'm in iPAQ overload mode now...

[Ryan Joseph]

Me, I'm in iPAQ overload mode now...

Well, that's to be expected. After all, this is the date it all becomes official. Ever since I read that it was going to be Monday, I've been expecting that most of the posts today would be iPAQ related. :wink:

I don't plan on buying one, but I am looking forward to trying them in person...especially the 4700.

[arnage2]

this is all great. i look forward to actually being able to purchase them now

[Foo Fighter]

Personally, I think these new models are fugly. HP was on a roll design wise for a long time, and now they seem to be taking a serious step backwards. It was the 19xx line that really put HP in the game. And what about those existing 19xx models? Will they be discontinued? If so, I can promise you the new line isn't going to sell nearly as well as its predecessor.

[powder2000]

Finally a picture of the flip cover :roll: I don' t like it. For some reason I was expecting a top flip cover ala jornada. They should've added buttons to the top of the 4700, it looks far more useful in landscape mode.

[ricksfiona]

I would like to have seen a more detailed test on the hx4700. It would've been nice to see the speed difference between applications running in ROM and RAM.

[Zack Mahdavi]

Wow, the 4715 has a flip cover! That might make the size more acceptable since a case isn't really required.

[PR.]

I'm disapointed by the lack of 4700 reviews :(

[Jonathan1]

Finally a picture of the flip cover :roll: I don' t like it. For some reason I was expecting a top flip cover ala jornada. They should've added buttons to the top of the 4700, it looks far more useful in landscape mode.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth!! All I care about is they finally have a freaking flip cover on a next gen Pocket PC!! I can finally upgrade from my aging Jornada 568.

[Fishie]

Now when will we finaly get some news on the 2400 and 2700 series devices?

[Fishie]

http://www.pocketnow.com/html/portal/reviews/0000000441/review/ipaqrz009.gif

Oh the pain the pain.

[powder2000]

http://www.pocketnow.com/html/portal/reviews/0000000441/review/ipaqrz009.gif

Oh the pain the pain.


:rotfl: My 4 year old eg-800 has more than this! I would say only newbies would buy this, but not even with the price it's at. They aren't going to sell any of these!

[maximus]

h6315 : 200 mhz Texas Instrument OMAP 1510.
I wonder if this is faster than the 624 mhz Intel PXA270 :mrgreen:
They seems to always know how to turn off people.

The hx4705 looks promising, with both SD and CF slots.

[Jonathan1]

I'm disapointed by the lack of 4700 reviews :(


Give it time. The devices they have are sneak peaks. Expect a ton o' full blow review after the 4700 starts flowing through the pipeline. By the end of august you are prob going to see a nauseating amount of reviews on every device. And every one will say that the 1710 sucks. :lol:

[Jonathan1]

:rotfl: My 4 year old eg-800 has more than this! I would say only newbies would buy this, but not even with the price it's at. They aren't going to sell any of these!

They will only sell it to the ignorant masses that don't know about Dell or don’t know a thing about tech specs.
I've come to the firm conclusion that this device would have never made it out of the labs if Dell had a brick and mortar presence. HP knows they can get away with this because their closest competition is only available online. Oh god I would laugh myself silly if Dell announced a deal with CompUSA and BestBuy to exclusively distribute their PDA’s. I’m pretty sure the flit would hit the san in a big way over at HP.

[Steven Cedrone]

I wonder if that flip can be positioned on either side of the device???

Steve

[Janak Parekh]

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth!! All I care about is they finally have a freaking flip cover on a next gen Pocket PC!! I can finally upgrade from my aging Jornada 568.
By that measure, the 3870/3970/5450/5550 had a slide flip "sleeve" known as a Cover Pack.

--janak

[serpico]

I can't believe this is what HP has to offer after the stylish and capable 1900 and 4100 series. Wow. HP should have kept the third party for styling instead of in house. I'm glad I didn't wait any longer and bought my 4150. Even the 1900 series is getting some extra props when compared to the new entry level HP. I'm sure some of you feel this way too.

[Jonathan1]

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth!! All I care about is they finally have a freaking flip cover on a next gen Pocket PC!! I can finally upgrade from my aging Jornada 568.
By that measure, the 3870/3970/5450/5550 had a slide flip "sleeve" known as a Cover Pack.

--janak

True, but you had to actually like those models of iPaq's to get one. :p That and
1. You had to go out and spend, what?, another $50 for the cover sleeve.
2. Even the most basic sleeve bulked the iPaq up enough to barely make it pocketable. Ditto with leather case covers as well.

There really is no substitute to an actual built in cover. To some a well designed flip cover is as important a feature as the design or the specs of the device.

[Iznot Gold]

Yep, I'm dissappointed that its a side opening flip cover...I just can't use them.

David

[WillyG]

I especially like this quote from the 1710 review:

"When we asked HP why the new rz1710 doesn't measure up to the h1945, we were told that the h1945 was an end-of-life product. But the last time we checked, going forward was supposed to mean adding features or cutting prices—not cutting features and raising prices, which is all the rz1710 really seems to offer."

:twisted: What is HP thinking...

[tccox]

And the 2210 is now listed as a discontinued product on the HP website

[Jonathan1]

The more I think about it the more I'm thinking I may pick up a 4155 instead and wait for the 4705 to invariably drop in price a bit. (Bet hard cash within 6 months it will be at $600 or $550. If I play my cards right I might be able to get a 4155 for a song. But again the 4155 doesn't have a flip cover so I can't simply dump it in my pocket. Hmmmm :confused totally:

[serpico]

The 4100 series comes with a nice slip case to allow you to drop it in your pocket. Or anywhere else, for that matter. It protects it quite well and I store it in my pocket all the time. I would recommend getting a 4155 deal or no deal, you'll be very happy. These HP models look ugly.

[huangzhinong]

The more I think about it the more I'm thinking I may pick up a 4155 instead and wait for the 4705 to invariably drop in price a bit. (Bet hard cash within 6 months it will be at $600 or $550. If I play my cards right I might be able to get a 4155 for a song. But again the 4155 doesn't have a flip cover so I can't simply dump it in my pocket. Hmmmm :confused totally:

Exactly what I am searching. I will get a h4155 soon. These new HP IPAQs are really disgusting. My h2210 warranty will be expired soon and I don't want to deal with the grip any more. Need a new device.

The lowest price of H4155 is about $330, I may get it before a real deal shows up.

[ventivent]

One of the reasons HP might have chosen to put the flip cover on the side, is because they expect that people will be using the 4700 in landscape mode more.

Just a thought.

V

[Jeff Rutledge]

One of the reasons HP might have chosen to put the flip cover on the side, is because they expect that people will be using the 4700 in landscape mode more.

Just a thought.

V

Good point. SE has made top/side a little less meaningful hasn't it?

[[email protected]]

I just called in to HP to order the new 4700, and was told that they will not have them available for about a month! :cry: what a gip. They posted, made me want it and then pulled it away from my face...... I hate it when they tease me.

[Janak Parekh]

1. You had to go out and spend, what?, another $50 for the cover sleeve.
Nope - it came with it. ;) You only needed to buy it for the 3600/3700 series...

2. Even the most basic sleeve bulked the iPaq up enough to barely make it pocketable. Ditto with leather case covers as well.
Well, I found this combination very pocketable -- more so than a leather case -- and well-integrated. Of course, YMMV.

--janak

[Jonathan1]

The lowest price of H4155 is about $330, I may get it before a real deal shows up.

Hey huangzhinong. Where did you find it for 330? The cheapest I can find is around 380-400? :confused totally:

[Jonathan1]

1. You had to go out and spend, what?, another $50 for the cover sleeve.
Nope - it came with it. ;) You only needed to buy it for the 3600/3700 series...

2. Even the most basic sleeve bulked the iPaq up enough to barely make it pocketable. Ditto with leather case covers as well.
Well, I found this combination very pocketable -- more so than a leather case -- and well-integrated. Of course, YMMV.

--janak

Which proves I know squat beyond my original iPaq back in 2000. :)
Good to know Compaq/HP actually shipped products beyond the Jornada line with covers, albeit a somewhat, IMHO, half baked approach.
I'm assuming you are referring to this:
http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/image/sleeves/cover_pack.jpg
The wonders of google ;) That not...er....one of the best implementations I've seen but I guess its OK.

[huangzhinong]

The lowest price of H4155 is about $330, I may get it before a real deal shows up.

Hey huangzhinong. Where did you find it for 330? The cheapest I can find is around 380-400? :confused totally:

http://www.compuplus.com/insidepage.php3?refer=pricegrabber.com&id=1001617

http://www.mpsuperstore.com/Computer/discr67645.htm?grabber

[Jonathan1]

Dude you rock! :rock on dude!:

[Talon]

h6315 : 200 mhz Texas Instrument OMAP 1510.
I wonder if this is faster than the 624 mhz Intel PXA270

It's not the best of the OMAPs but it's not going to be as bad as it sounds.
The OMAP is a far better design internally and clock for clock would easily beat any xscale.
Assuming they use the DSP well (it is after all 2 ~200Mhz processors not just one) then I would expect it to perform about the same as a 350-400 MHz PXA255 but at a fraction of the power. Actual performance would depend on exactly what you are doing. e.g. all the GSM stuff will be done by the DSP and so have no impact on windows performance.

So no, this isn't going to be the worlds fastest PDA but MHz are a meaningless measurment when it comes to cpu performance.

[juni]

Did some extensive web page reading over at hp.com. They say absolutely nowhere that the new devices are upgradeable - so when the next OS version (smaller or bigger upgrade) comes out there won't be any point in expecting HP to provide it for these new devices (which sadly will be obsolete in a year). All they mention is that they have "flashroms".

[Talon]

Did some extensive web page reading over at hp.com. They say absolutely nowhere that the new devices are upgradeable - so when the next OS version (smaller or bigger upgrade) comes out there won't be any point in expecting HP to provide it for these new devices (which sadly will be obsolete in a year). All they mention is that they have "flashroms".

Flash is just a type of EEPROM (electronically eraseable programable ROM) so just like any current PDA in theory the OS can be upgraded. There may be space issues but I doubt it.
OS upgrades will probably be more of a marketing / MS decision than a technical one. HP can't commit to providing an upgrade until MS decide if they are going to let people upgrade when the new version comes out and what the minimum specs are for the new version.

[juni]

I know what a flashrom is, but going by HP's decision to not offer the SE upgrade to models currently running WM2003 I thought it would be a good idea to check and see if they even mention upgradeability on their site - they don't - so they won't be obligated to offer anything.