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Jason Dunn
07-01-2004, 05:45 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://news.com.com/MSN+launches+revamped+search+engine/2100-1032_3-5254083.html?part=rss&tag=5254083&subj=news.1032.5' target='_blank'>http://news.com.com/MSN+launches+re...ubj=news.1032.5</a><br /><br /></div><i>"Microsoft is expected to take its first baby steps on the road to Web search independence on Thursday, with the launch of a homegrown Internet search tool and changes to its Internet search engine. The revamped MSN Search remains a front end for technology provided by Yahoo, offering mainly a facelift aimed to make it look more like Google. The relatively minor changes signal that--after a year in development and $100 million investment--Microsoft's ballyhooed search push still has a long way to go."</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.search.msn.com/">Check it out and let us know what you think</a> - Pocket PC Thoughts is the #2 ranked site (once you get past the paid results), so in my books they're off to a good start. :lol:

ppcsurfr
07-01-2004, 05:55 AM
Hey it's quick!

:D

Carlo

sponge
07-01-2004, 05:56 AM
Said it yourself: #2 after paid results. One big reason why they won't succeed.

Janak Parekh
07-01-2004, 06:03 AM
Said it yourself: #2 after paid results. One big reason why they won't succeed.
Don't speak so quickly... a Google search (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=pocket+pc) has sponsored links at the top, too. ;)

Looks like Microsoft's coming close to firing their first real shot at Google. This is going to be interesting to watch. 8) I'm going to stick with Google for now, though, since I'm very happy with it.

--janak

marlof
07-01-2004, 06:16 AM
Same here: I'm going to stick to Google, since it has solved the problems I was dealing with by enabling me to search both the web and the usenet groups for solutions. Even when some, with sound advice, alas choose to not have their contributions to the Usenet archived. Sigh.

manywhere
07-01-2004, 06:25 AM
When searching for "Pocket PC" (http://www.search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=SMCRT&q=%22pocket%20pc%22), PPCT is fourth in the results (sponsored ads excluded)... what searchterms did you use to get PPCT as second? :?

Nice seeing that searching for "Filip Norrgård" (http://www.search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=SMCRT&q=filip%20norrg%C3%A5rd) puts my homepage in first place, but "Filip Norrgard" (http://www.search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=SMCRT&q=filip%20norrgard) returns my homepage as second. :)

And, best of all: searches for "Linux" (http://www.search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=SMCRT&q=linux) don't appear censored anymore! :D Way to go MSN! :mrgreen:

dean_shan
07-01-2004, 06:45 AM
I like this new MSN search a lot better. Less clutter, less junk.

surur
07-01-2004, 07:30 AM
If you search for "best search engine", strangely enough MSN is first, and google second. If you search for it on google, MSN is not even on the first page, and google is the second link. This indicated a certain hubris at Microsoft (or a willingness to bend the rules of their index) and certainly some modesty at google :)

I think I will stick to google. I find the results page on msn much too cluttered.

Surur

ppcsurfr
07-01-2004, 07:50 AM
Well, I'm using one of the PowerToys for XP... Tweak UI and I can enter a prefix and the itme I want to search...

Now I only enter [msn pocket pc] and it searches for it.

I also have it set for google so I only type [google pocket pc] and off it goes...

either way, I now have two search engines I can rely on.

Carlo

sponge
07-01-2004, 08:18 AM
Don't speak so quickly... a Google search (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=pocket+pc) has sponsored links at the top, too. ;)

Looks like Microsoft's coming close to firing their first real shot at Google. This is going to be interesting to watch. 8) I'm going to stick with Google for now, though, since I'm very happy with it.

--janak

I knew about those, but #2 after sponsored sounds like there were sponsored ads inside the search results, instead of being separated from the rest. Tried it myself, was somewhat confused at what it was talking about, since I saw PPCT was #4, but also saw those ads at the top.

Solarix
07-01-2004, 02:38 PM
I did the search for "Pocket PC" too and had PPCT come up as number #4. I guess these guys made the claim of #2 since you can't really count the two offcial Microsoft links since that is expected. So after PPC Mag, #2 it is. Hey, even #4 is nothing to scoff at.

ppc_kiwi
07-01-2004, 02:41 PM
While google is still the better search engine, it's good that we have alternative seach engine. I hope it will have something similar to froogle though.

:roll:

Jason Dunn
07-01-2004, 05:16 PM
When searching for "Pocket PC" (http://www.search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=SMCRT&q=%22pocket%20pc%22), PPCT is fourth in the results (sponsored ads excluded)... what searchterms did you use to get PPCT as second? :?

This is completely different than what I saw last night - in the version I saw, the paid results were in the same column as the search results, not off to the side a-la-Google. Strange! Now I see we're #4.

JonnoB
07-01-2004, 05:48 PM
For web searches, it seems for the most part complete and fast, but misses alot of content that Google gets. What I like alot about Google is the newsgroup search including the archives that go back for years. I can see some of my postings from a decade ago!

pt
07-01-2004, 06:03 PM
i posted some screen shots from a pocket pc here..

http://features.engadget.com/entry/9423298118686276/

cheers,
pt

guinness
07-01-2004, 08:01 PM
Google owns; I can search newsgroups. the web and look for images at the same time, I always think competition is good, but Google seems to give the best results out of any search engine, except for audio/video.

Jonathon Watkins
07-02-2004, 03:01 AM
When searching for "Pocket PC" (http://www.search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=SMCRT&q=%22pocket%20pc%22), PPCT is fourth in the results (sponsored ads excluded)... what searchterms did you use to get PPCT as second? :?

This is completely different than what I saw last night - in the version I saw, the paid results were in the same column as the search results, not off to the side a-la-Google. Strange! Now I see we're #4.

That's high speed development for you. :lol: :?