iPAQ rx3000 Series Devices Approved By FCC

[Janak Parekh]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=329190&fcc_id=\\\'NM8DF\\\'' target='_blank'>http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet...d=\\\'NM8DF\\\'</a><br /><br /></div>It looks like the iPAQ rx3000 series devices have passed FCC certification for WiFi/Bluetooth networking, and as a result, the usual litany of stuff is posted on the FCC website for everyone to see. :) The user's guide suggests that: <li> The units will be 4.5" x 2.8" x 0.64" and weighing between 5.2oz and 5.6oz -- roughly the same dimensions as the iPAQ h2215, although slightly narrower. <br /><li> All three will use a Samsung ARM processor, but will have varying amounts of RAM.<br /><li> The top-end unit, the rx3700, will have 152MB of memory "available to the user", while the rx3417 and rx3415 will have 88MB and 56MB, respectively. All three feature an SD slot for expansion.<br /><li> The units will feature a 3.5" QVGA (240x320) screen.<br /><li> The units will have a 1.3MP digital camera built-in (no flash); the rx3700 will have additional video capture formats.<br /><li> Bluetooth 1.1 and WiFi (802.11b) on all three.<br /><li> The rx3700 will be bundled with a 1440mAh battery, and will be upgradeable to 2880mAh. The rx3400 units will have 920mAh batteries, but seem upgradeable to the larger capacity ones (both 1440 and 2880mAh). Finally, here's a low-res pic from the FCC documentation.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/parekh-20040622-iPAQ3000.jpg" /><br /><br />Overall, it looks like a replacement for the 4150 lineup, and seems to do a pretty credible job at that, but I'm personally more curious about the rumored VGA devices. ;)

[OSUKid7]

Nifty. 0X Glad to see HP is moving on these new devices. :) Can't be too long 'till the 4700 series now.

[PR.]

Gah I want the Explorer model. :twisted:

FCC approve that one!

[jkendrick]

BH missed the boat on this device. According to the manual it's poised as a Mobile Media Center and comes standard with s/w to allow two way streaming of any media content via WiFi. It also has remote control s/w that will control "all your entertainment equipment". I'm not sure why they didn't go with a faster processor to handle the video but they have definitely positioned it as a complete Media Center which is cool.

[dean_shan]

The units will have a 1.3MP digital camera built-in (no flash); the rx3700 will have additional video capture formats.

Oh great here we go, now we're going to have 50 posts on how they want this device but won't get it casue it has a camera.

[Janak Parekh]

BH missed the boat on this device. According to the manual it's poised as a Mobile Media Center and comes standard with s/w to allow two way streaming of any media content via WiFi.
This is a good point. I saw that section in the manual, but I wanted to get the post up as quickly as possible. I'll do a closer read and see if I can post something useful about it.

--janak

[Fishie]

BH missed the boat on this device. According to the manual it's poised as a Mobile Media Center and comes standard with s/w to allow two way streaming of any media content via WiFi. It also has remote control s/w that will control "all your entertainment equipment". I'm not sure why they didn't go with a faster processor to handle the video but they have definitely positioned it as a complete Media Center which is cool.

The Samsung processor running at 266MHz is almost as fast as the XScale 263 processor running at 400MHz.

There is no doubt in my mind that the 400MHz Samsung processor will perform every bit as well as the more expensive Intel XScale 270 running at 620MHz.

[jkendrick]

We've quoted this section of the manual on our article about the device.

http://www.pocketpctools.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid2=1057&mode=&order=0&thold=0

Might save you the trouble :)

[Sven Johannsen]

QVGA and a camera, I'll be saving my money. (that's 1 if you are counting ;) )

[jkendrick]

BH missed the boat on this device. According to the manual it's poised as a Mobile Media Center and comes standard with s/w to allow two way streaming of any media content via WiFi. It also has remote control s/w that will control "all your entertainment equipment". I'm not sure why they didn't go with a faster processor to handle the video but they have definitely positioned it as a complete Media Center which is cool.

The Samsung processor running at 266MHz is almost as fast as the XScale 263 processor running at 400MHz.

There is no doubt in my mind that the 400MHz Samsung processor will perform every bit as well as the more expensive Intel XScale 270 running at 620MHz.
Hope you're right. Gotta have video with this unit. :D

[huangzhinong]

I almost certainly say samsung 400mHz is FASTER than intel 270 624Mhz. The only drawback is samsung chips is not energy-saving as xscale.

[jkendrick]

I almost certainly say samsung 400mHz is FASTER than intel 270 624Mhz. The only drawback is samsung chips is not energy-saving as xscale.

Have you seen benchmarks published anywhere?

[huangzhinong]

I almost certainly say samsung 400mHz is FASTER than intel 270 624Mhz. The only drawback is samsung chips is not energy-saving as xscale.

Have you seen benchmarks published anywhere?

No, sir, that's why I say "almost".

PI runs faster in h1945 than in h2210.

[Zack Mahdavi]

I'm impressed about the amount of memory that will be available. I could sure use 152MB of memory on the device. :)

[Janak Parekh]

We've quoted this section of the manual on our article about the device.
OK - I took a look at the manual, so I'll make up a post a little later today with a link to yours as well as my thoughts. :)

--janak

[jkendrick]

Cool. This is a device to really get excited about if HP has done the media stuff as well as I think they will.

[Jonathon Watkins]

The units will have a 1.3MP digital camera built-in (no flash); the rx3700 will have additional video capture formats.

Oh great here we go, now we're going to have 50 posts on how they want this device but won't get it casue it has a camera.

Well, it does bear saying until manufactures listen. :wink: However you could go here (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=255207) or here (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=254532) for that particular debate. :)

[Jonathon Watkins]

Gah I want the Explorer model. :twisted:

FCC approve that one!

Agreed, much better spec and no camera. :devilboy:

[powder2000]

That is one funky looking cradle, headphones also included.

[powder2000]

Bluetooth 1.1 on all three; WLAN as well, but it's not clear if it has 802.11g or just b.



The test documents clearly state 802.11b.

[rtrueman]

NIce device! I can't wait for more info on the 47XX. Bring it on!!!

Rob

[Janak Parekh]

The test documents clearly state 802.11b.
Thanks; I'll update.

--janak

[Mark Johnson]

Gah I want the Explorer model. :twisted:


Agreed, much better spec and no camera. :devilboy:

Oh yeah! Gotta get some VGA. It's been an INSANELY long wait. The last few months of announcements of these QVGA units is driving me nuts. Every time a new photo shows up on the homepage I have a split second of hope that it's finally time, then see it's just another QVGA design.

[Fishie]

BH missed the boat on this device. According to the manual it's poised as a Mobile Media Center and comes standard with s/w to allow two way streaming of any media content via WiFi. It also has remote control s/w that will control "all your entertainment equipment". I'm not sure why they didn't go with a faster processor to handle the video but they have definitely positioned it as a complete Media Center which is cool.

The Samsung processor running at 266MHz is almost as fast as the XScale 263 processor running at 400MHz.

There is no doubt in my mind that the 400MHz Samsung processor will perform every bit as well as the more expensive Intel XScale 270 running at 620MHz.
Hope you're right. Gotta have video with this unit. :D

Believe me I am :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Fishie]

I'm impressed about the amount of memory that will be available. I could sure use 152MB of memory on the device. :)
My e800 has 128mb of ram and 32mb of rom file store.

thats 160mb total.

[WillyG]

From reading the manual it seems like they finaly renovated the antiquated looking iTask too. Also im glad they redid the ugly looking wireless manager icon and the manager itself. This aint looking bad.

Other observations:
-A new launch page, supposed to be an alternative to the todayscreen (im not so sure i like this one)
-A new appearance of the IE start page
-A new ActiveSync Conduit for images
-It looks like HP mobile printing is in ROM (good move)

[Deus]

This definatly looks like the Multimedia focused device. You can bet this will perform just as good if not better than some of the 600up processors, as far as multimedia functions go. I wonder if all will come with the iPAQ Mobile Media software that comes with the rx3000 series.


Explorer Model for me though!

[paris]

well if this does not have the 1450 form factor and a VGA screen then its a no buy for me. Whatever else they come up as a 4150 replacement it has to have the 4150 forma factory and a vga to upgrade

[Sven Johannsen]

I notice the BT profiles don't include HID (keyboard/mouse) or headset/handsfree.

[szamot]

It looks like the cradle is collapsible which is good if you carry it around in the bag, but with old resolution and old wireless this is really not much to get excited about. Sorry, count me as number #2 for saying SO WHAT!? N E X T……

[iPAQ_ace]

-A new ActiveSync Conduit for images


Actually the ActiveSync conduit for images is already available for the HP Photosmart Mobile SDIO Camera. Its a nice feature. Overall, this looks like a nice multimedia PPC - the iPAQ Mobile Media makes this device look very attractive.

Still tho - I want my H6300 series and an hx4700 with VGA/CF/SDIO soon!

[omikron.sk]

Multimedia focused device, huh? Am I the only one here who doesn't yet get it?

"gives you the ability to browse and play music, photos, and video collections over a wireless network from anywhere within your home. You can wirelessly stream digital content to your HP iPAQ or play your content on PCs around your Wi-Fi home network. You can view and share your media with family and firiends. And you can use the universal remote control to access your home entertainment devices."

And? There's nothing I cannot do today with my only BT-equipped h2210. Stream video? I did it so many times. View pictures? (you don't mean this really, do you?) - it was possible since Pocket PC 2000 and even before on similar devices? Listening to music??? Universal remote control? As far as I know all iPaqs with customer-grade irda come with Nevo - and that's really cool piece of software, which was here since times of h38xx/h39xx, maybe earlier (I'm not sure).
So what's so revolutional on this? Sorry, but I don't get it.

[Janak Parekh]

Multimedia focused device, huh? Am I the only one here who doesn't yet get it?
You're a power user that can assemble the tools to do this on any Pocket PC. So can I. ;) The point here is that they're building a comprehensive solution for the average end-user.

--janak

[Jonathon Watkins]

Multimedia focused device, huh? Am I the only one here who doesn't yet get it?

No, me too. I don't see what the big deal is.

[Howard2k]

Samsung processor??

(Crosses this one off the list)

[Ed@Brighthand]

well if this does not have the 1450 form factor and a VGA screen then its a no buy for me. Whatever else they come up as a 4150 replacement it has to have the 4150 forma factory and a vga to upgrade
Based on all the info that's leaked about all the new iPAQs, the general shape that debuted with the h1900 series and was used in the h4150 is now dead. All of the new models have a boxy look that lacks the curved design of the h1900. Too bad, as they were some of the best looking handhelds ever made.

[Fishie]

Samsung processor??

(Crosses this one off the list)

And whats wrong with a Samsung processor?

[Howard2k]

How does it compare with the XScale 624Mhz?

[Fishie]

How does it compare with the XScale 624Mhz?

Some Ipaqs already use it and the Ipaq 1940/45 that uses the 266MHz version of this chip compares very favourably with Intel XScales clocked at 400MHz.

In all likelyhood this procesor will perform AT LEAST on par with the XScale 270 clocked at 624MHz.

[jngold_me]

well if this does not have the 1450 form factor and a VGA screen then its a no buy for me. Whatever else they come up as a 4150 replacement it has to have the 4150 forma factory and a vga to upgrade
Based on all the info that's leaked about all the new iPAQs, the general shape that debuted with the h1900 series and was used in the h4150 is now dead. All of the new models have a boxy look that lacks the curved design of the h1900. Too bad, as they were some of the best looking handhelds ever made.

A moment of silence please......

[ruarch5]

"gives you the ability to browse and play music, photos, and video collections over a wireless network from anywhere within your home. You can wirelessly stream digital content to your HP iPAQ or play your content on PCs around your Wi-Fi home network. You can view and share your media with family and firiends. And you can use the universal remote control to access your home entertainment devices."


Finally!!! Some marketing people are getting to promote the PPC to Joe Avarage..this is probably the best thing to ever hapen to the PPC market.

BTW...these devices don't seem to have been designed with landscape use in mind. Maybe they were designed before SE?

[ctmagnus]

All of the new models have a boxy look that lacks the curved design of the h1900. Too bad, as they were some of the best looking handhelds ever made.

8O

:mecry:

The form of my iPaqs gave me yet another reason to be proud of them. If I wanted boxy, I would have bought any of the many other (with a few exceptions) Pocket PCs out there.

[Mark Johnson]

All of the new models have a boxy look that lacks the curved design of the h1900. Too bad, as they were some of the best looking handhelds ever made.

:mecry:



This is really an underestimated strength of the 1900/4100 design. The overall size in not much different from the "box format" Toshiba e400, Dell x30, or Viewsonic v37 units, but the "pocketability" of the iPaq BLOWS AWAY the others. The curved bottom means that it slides far more comfortably to the bottom of my jeans pocket. Also, having the flat face inward, the curved back also is much more comfortable in the pocket.

The iPaq 1910 was, IMHO, the first true "Pocket PC" released. For me the jury is still out on the more angular/brickish 2215 format - I'm sure I'll like it less than the curved 1900, I'm just not sure how much less.

I am encouraged that ASUS seems to have learned this lesson. The A730 looks pretty good even though they made it thicker than I'd like by including a CF slot I don't really need...