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Janak Parekh
05-21-2004, 05:00 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=ppct' target='_blank'>http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-que...ct&Acronym=ppct</a><br /><br /></div>PPCT member ryaninc spotted the fact that not only is PPCT an abbreviation that we use here, but it's also now an acronym listed at <a href="http://www.acronymfinder.com">AcronymFinder.com</a>. What's next? <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7144">W?BIC!</a> making it into the <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=W?BIC!">dictionary</a>? :mrgreen:

Shadowcat
05-21-2004, 05:41 AM
Wow, the site's really famous!

yada88
05-21-2004, 05:42 AM
I just took the three minutes to submit W?BIC! to the acronym website. Let's see if they accept it in a few days...

jason k
05-21-2004, 07:25 AM
not to be the bearer of bad news... PPCT is a register trade mark. The company teaches defensive tactics to police, they also have a reputation of sueing people for anything close to infringment.

jason

Pony99CA
05-21-2004, 07:36 AM
PPCT member ryaninc spotted the fact that not only is PPCT an abbreviation that we use here, but it's also now an acronym listed at AcronymFinder.com (www.acronymfinder.com).
I'm glad you referred to "PPCT" as an abbreviation, not an acronym (well, except in the Subject :-)). An acronym has to resemble a word (something that can be pronounced as a word).

Steve

P.S. That AcronymFinder.com link is broken (it needs the "http://").

Steven Cedrone
05-21-2004, 12:33 PM
P.S. That AcronymFinder.com link is broken (it needs the "http://").

Fixed! Thanks...

Steve

Ed Hansberry
05-21-2004, 12:56 PM
An acronym has to resemble a word (something that can be pronounced as a word).
Merriam Webster disagrees.
Main Entry: ac·ro·nym
Pronunciation: 'a-kr&-"nim
Function: noun
Etymology: acr- + -onym
: a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term; also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed from initial letters

Ryan Joseph
05-21-2004, 02:15 PM
Yeah, I thought this was so cool that I had to share it with you guys. I use AcronymFinder all the time. They have an amazing database and it really comes in handy. (I even tried checking it wirelessly under the table while playing Balderdash, but I got caught. :wink:)

But the other day I thought I'd try looking for PPCT. And there it was! Very cool.

And look how excited we're all getting! This is such a great community! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Pony99CA
05-21-2004, 04:57 PM
An acronym has to resemble a word (something that can be pronounced as a word).
Merriam Webster disagrees.
Main Entry: ac·ro·nym
Pronunciation: 'a-kr&-"nim
Function: noun
Etymology: acr- + -onym
: a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term; also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed from initial letters
Yes, but American Heritage (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=acronym) agrees with me.

ac·ro·nym ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kr-nm)
n.

A word formed from the initial letters of a name, such as WAC for Women's Army Corps, or by combining initial letters or parts of a series of words, such as radar for radio detecting and ranging.


[acr(o)- + -onym.]acro·nymic or a·crony·mous (-krn-ms) adj.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Notice that Merriam-Webster said it was also an abbreviation; they didn't give a #2 definition. That generally implies that it's a less acceptable definition.

It's possible that so many people misused "acronym" that it is taking on the additional meaning through common usage. Perhaps Merriam-Webster acknowledges that, while American Heritage prefers to keep the original meaning.

Steve

Kati Compton
05-21-2004, 05:00 PM
My dictionary is better than your dictionary!!!

;)

Kacey Green
05-21-2004, 05:14 PM
well my dictionary whups both your dictionaries :lol:

Pony99CA
05-21-2004, 05:16 PM
My dictionary is better than your dictionary!!!

;)
I know you were being humorous, but it's not an issue of "better". Different dictionaries have different philosophies. Some prefer to indicate how the language is actually used, while some prefer to define the "correct" usage of words. Of course, what is "correct" changes over time as the language evolves.

While that evoluation may or may not be good, at least English isn't like French, with some official board trying to preserve the "purity" of the language. English is like America -- a big melting pot.

Steve

acronym
05-21-2004, 05:55 PM
huh? why are my ears burning?

Tricia
05-21-2004, 06:40 PM
PPCT member ryaninc spotted the fact that not only is PPCT an abbreviation that we use here, but it's also now an acronym listed at AcronymFinder.com (http://www.acronymfinder.com). What's next? W?BIC! (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7144) making it into the dictionary (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=W?BIC!)? :mrgreen:

uh sorry if im stupid. what is wbic?

Steven Cedrone
05-21-2004, 06:51 PM
PPCT member ryaninc spotted the fact that not only is PPCT an abbreviation that we use here, but it's also now an acronym listed at AcronymFinder.com (http://www.acronymfinder.com). What's next? W?BIC! (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7144) making it into the dictionary (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=W?BIC!)? :mrgreen:

uh sorry if im stupid. what is wbic?

Tricia: it stands for "Why? Because I Can!" Take a look at the link in Janak's post! Or better yet, here is the link again:

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7144

Steve

Mark Kenepp
05-21-2004, 06:56 PM
not to be the bearer of bad news... PPCT is a register trade mark. The company teaches defensive tactics to police, they also have a reputation of sueing people for anything close to infringment.

They (http://www.ppct.com/) don't look like they want to be messed with :snipersmile:

Maybe they teach Pressure Point Control Tactics :twisted:

Tricia
05-21-2004, 07:06 PM
PPCT member ryaninc spotted the fact that not only is PPCT an abbreviation that we use here, but it's also now an acronym listed at AcronymFinder.com (http://www.acronymfinder.com). What's next? W?BIC! (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7144) making it into the dictionary (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=W?BIC!)? :mrgreen:

uh sorry if im stupid. what is wbic?

Tricia: it stands for "Why? Because I Can!" Take a look at the link in Janak's post! Or better yet, here is the link again:

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7144

Steve
o sorry. i didnt see that there was a link. :oops:

Ed Hansberry
05-21-2004, 11:34 PM
My dictionary is better than your dictionary!!!

;) :roll:

topps
05-21-2004, 11:36 PM
An acronym has to resemble a word (something that can be pronounced as a word).
Merriam Webster disagrees.
Main Entry: ac·ro·nym
Pronunciation: 'a-kr&-"nim
Function: noun
Etymology: acr- + -onym
: a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term; also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed from initial letters
Oh well, Webster caused all sorts of problems in defining a new language that is different from English, didn't he? So you can't really trust anything he says.

Acronym is literally a "short name", and is supposed to be pronounceable eg Oxfam, Unicef. It is not the same as an abbreviation. However, in recent years, abbreviation and acronym have increasingly been used synonymously and so I suppose, as with most things, this now just reflects a change in the language. As Bacon pointed out more than 400 years ago, you cannot fix a language in time. (except he said it much more eloquently)

Janak Parekh
05-22-2004, 04:36 AM
While that evoluation may or may not be good, at least English isn't like French, with some official board trying to preserve the "purity" of the language. English is like America -- a big melting pot.
Well, I wouldn't necessarily consider it superior. One word: ebonics. :|

--janak

jake080
05-22-2004, 05:14 AM
dang, this is a great thread!!! so is the W?BIC! thread...
Just thought id say that :P

Kacey Green
05-22-2004, 08:06 PM
Well, I wouldn't necessarily consider it superior. One word: ebonics. :|

--janak

yeah, ah here dat :wink:

pbg
05-23-2004, 04:03 AM
An acronym has to resemble a word (something that can be pronounced as a word).

So would CICS be an acronym here in Ausralia (where it is said "kicks") but not in the US of A where it is said "see eye see ess"?

Kacey Green
05-23-2004, 06:16 AM
then it is an aussi acronym, but an American abbreviation (according to the definitions given here

English (AU) accronm
English (US) abbreviation
English (UK) ?
would some of you people across the pond answer that last one for me?

Pony99CA
05-23-2004, 06:17 AM
An acronym has to resemble a word (something that can be pronounced as a word).
So would CICS be an acronym here in Ausralia (where it is said "kicks") but not in the US of A where it is said "see eye see ess"?
As long as it can be pronounced, I think it's an acronym.

However, many of us in the U.S. pronounce CICS like "kicks", too. (I used to work for IBM, so I think I can speak with some authority. :-))

Steve

Kacey Green
05-23-2004, 06:23 AM
However, many of us in the U.S. pronounce CICS like "kicks", too. (I used to work for IBM, so I think I can speak with some authority. :-))

Steve

are you sure they do? or did they learn that from you? :D