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Jonathon Watkins
04-06-2004, 09:00 PM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.handango.com/brainstore/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=311&productId=117048' target='_blank'>http://www.handango.com/brainstore/...roductId=117048</a><br /><br /></div>We’ve been sent details of a new? Task Manager for the PPC by BakiSoft: "The Pocket PC 2003 is a great tool for many things beyond basic PDA functionality. It is a true computer with surprising speed and capabilities, the limits of which are confined only to the imaginations of software developers and end users." Yes, I think we are aware at this site that you can use just a tiny bit more than PIM tools with a PPC. :wink: <br /><br />"As Windows developers, as well as users, we were surprised that there was no Task Manager program included with the operating system. So we decided to create one. Task Manager PPC was developed with two purposes in mind. The first was to provide users with the capability of viewing running applications and processes with a friendly user interface. The second was to provide developers with a means to view current running state details for any process." So there you go. I can't seem to find a demo version though. The <a href="http://www.bakisoft.com">developer's website</a> also looks like it could use a bit of TLC at the moment. All the links appear to be broken and the last update I can locate was last August……… :? <br /><br />It is true that it would be great to have a real task manager included with PPCs as standard. Has anyone used this, or any other task manager for the PPC? Thoughts?

Jacob
04-06-2004, 09:05 PM
I use Wisbar Advanced for mine and well, cheaper and does what I need for task management. .

Their contacts on their site being listed as:

E-Mail [email protected]
Phone (xxx) xxx-xxxx
Help Web Site: Widgets Help Web Site

The Help web site is a link to: http://www.microsoft.com/widgets (a broken link)

This doesn't exactly inspire confidence in their company.

T-Will
04-06-2004, 09:08 PM
$20 for this?!?!?!? I don't think so... :|

foebea
04-06-2004, 09:30 PM
If you are really hankering for a very good task(and process) manager, be sure to check out Pocket Hack Master. You know the name, most trust it, and its process manager is tops. For purely task management, then Wisbar is definately the way to go, there are skins that blend it into whatever you are used to, and also skins which merge it in with Dashboard. Definately worth a look.

huangzhinong
04-06-2004, 09:31 PM
There must be some other reason I don't know to make this software in frontpage. :lol:

Today is Apr 6th, not Apr 1st.

possmann
04-06-2004, 09:32 PM
I have to agree with the comments here - not worth it for what it does (just from looking at it and not using it). So what is the advantage of using this?

element
04-06-2004, 09:45 PM
Feh.

victore
04-06-2004, 10:04 PM
While I use WisBar Advanced to view running tasks (WisBar does more than just this), there are times when I wish I could see running "processes". That's when I fire up PHM's Task Manager (http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/TaskMgr/). Task Manager has the ability to view and stop running processes, so that eventhough WisBar doesn't show it running, Task Manager will.

huangzhinong
04-06-2004, 10:35 PM
PHM task manager does the processes manager three years ago and it's free.
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/TaskMgr/taskmgr_ss.gif
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/TaskMgr/taskmgr_ss3.gif

PiatekHS
04-06-2004, 10:56 PM
VBAR (http://www.vieka.com/vbar.htm) from Vieka, is excellent, small footprint, free, and easy to use. $20 is far too much for something like this, unless you are a developer yourself. PHM Task Manager is also good for seeing processes.

Jonathon Watkins
04-06-2004, 11:12 PM
There's a decent lot of suggestions for Task Managers here. Do any of them have a performance graph, a-la Windows NT/2K/XP?

This was posted as it was sent in to us as news - and I was curious to see what you guys made of this. :wink:

ctmagnus
04-06-2004, 11:27 PM
IIRC (at least in the WinCE 3.0 days) that a task manager with the graph etc wasn't possible at the time, due to some limitation of the OS and/or hardware, or possibly my comprehension of reality ;). But now that 400MHz CPUs and CE4.2 are commonplace, that may be entirely different.

PPCRules
04-07-2004, 12:17 AM
This doesn't seem to be a category that can support a paid entry, much less $20, since there are so many good free options (good old supply-and-demand at work). It must be really easy to develop something like this, given it seems to be a favorite project for many.

Steven Cedrone
04-07-2004, 03:33 AM
I like the FAQ... (http://www.bakisoft.com/faq.htm) :roll:

How do I ... ?
This is the answer to the question. This is the answer to the question. This is the answer to the question. This is the answer to the question. This is the answer to the question. This is the answer to the question. This is the answer to the question. This is the answer to the question.

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ctmagnus
04-07-2004, 04:00 AM
As of 9:00 PM MST, April 6 2004, does anyone see any pictures on that site at all? I just get red X's.

ctmagnus
04-07-2004, 04:04 AM
Technical Support Information
Technical support is offered Monday - Sunday from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. (CST).
Phone : (412) 920-4247
E-Mail : [email protected]

Anyone in/near the (412) 920 calling area care to give that number a call during business hours?

spikedrabbit
04-07-2004, 04:42 AM
I use Valksoft True Toolbar and its my fave taskmanager app. It also includes a handy launcher. You can see it here: http://www.valksoft.com/TrueToolbar.html

Warwick
04-07-2004, 05:32 AM
I myself wrote a process viewer, realy nice tree view style. Could stop processes and all sorts of interesting information. I couldnt sell it at $5 so I have no doubt that this will not sell at $2.50 let alone $20.

surur
04-07-2004, 08:31 AM
I myself wrote a process viewer, realy nice tree view style. Could stop processes and all sorts of interesting information. I couldnt sell it at $5 so I have no doubt that this will not sell at $2.50 let alone $20.

Can your process viewer change priorites of processes? Ive been looking for something on my PPCPhone which would give the phone a a higher priority. I would pay $2.50 for that :)

(or you may just release it as freeware.....)

Surur

algester
04-07-2004, 09:46 AM
This is the task manger I use, its freeware and does the usual bits graph of CPU useage, running processes etc - http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/ishi/itaskmgr/index.html

Jason Lee
04-07-2004, 03:42 PM
This is the task manger I use, its freeware and does the usual bits graph of CPU useage, running processes etc - http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/ishi/itaskmgr/index.html

Does it run ok on WM2003?

Gerard
04-07-2004, 05:06 PM
I've used GigaBar almost constantly since September of 2000, on 9 PPCs. Took a couple of breaks to see if MyTools or WisBar might do the trick with smaller footprints, but they didn't. GigaBar, especially the latest beta versions, just offers way more tools. GigaPad seems little known in the forums, but it's one of the coolest little notepads made for PPC, and comes as part of the installation. Open as many instances as you need, no problem. Great for cross-editing text files. Edits lots of other types besides TXT, too... but this is meandering off topic.

The site for this thing looks like it's completely bogus, dudes. Someone's trying to scam some cash where there's no product most likely. And even if it were real, what sane person would pay for a task manager when there are a handful of awesome programs for this sort of use available completely free???

As for a graphical processor use monitor; PocketMon, a Today plugin which is a component install of the premium Sprite Backup program, has the option to display a little green-on-black animated bar graph. Shows updates about every 3 seconds, and the lines are narrow enough that the past couple of minutes' activity levels are in view at any time. Not free, and not small at around 650KB or so, but PocketMon does a whole lot more than just that, and is rather configurable per user preferences.

ctmagnus
04-07-2004, 05:17 PM
This is the task manger I use, its freeware and does the usual bits graph of CPU useage, running processes etc - http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/ishi/itaskmgr/index.html

Even better - ITaskMgr+NetMgr (http://homepage2.nifty.com/qta/tpn/index.htm) adds a XP-style network monitor.

Found this from the quoted link.

omikron.sk
04-07-2004, 10:17 PM
It has already been mentioned here, but is there any task manager that could set priority of the processes?

Warwick
04-07-2004, 11:30 PM
Ill have a look at the priority request over the weekend and see if I can add it. If I can Ill post about it here and you can download it for free.

After going back and looking at what I had done and what I could add, it seems that the base process priority is just used to set the priority of any threads it makes and in CE this is always normal. CE seems to have a problem with getting into other processes threads, making it hard to set and get things from another process.

What I have now is a split screen tree view up the top, list view down the bottom. Tree view is in the order of System->Processes->process name-> heap, module and thread info for each process. You can actualy view the heap data, and a list of all modules in use. It shows all sorts of info but only has a kill process option. I have added a save data function for the heap data, saves as a text file with hex and ascii.

This is just a hobby project and I have no web space to host it on, although I can upload it to Handango if anyone wants to play with it.

So the question is, do you want to set the base priority of the process (I think this affects any threads made after the change) or do you want to set the priority of the threads in the process(could be dangerous if you give something too high a priority)?

If your interested email me for more info.

omikron.sk
04-08-2004, 07:21 AM
Ill have a look at the priority request over the weekend and see if I can add it. If I can Ill post about it here and you can download it for free.

After going back and looking at what I had done and what I could add, it seems that the base process priority is just used to set the priority of any threads it makes and in CE this is always normal. CE seems to have a problem with getting into other processes threads, making it hard to set and get things from another process.

What I have now is a split screen tree view up the top, list view down the bottom. Tree view is in the order of System->Processes->process name-> heap, module and thread info for each process. You can actualy view the heap data, and a list of all modules in use. It shows all sorts of info but only has a kill process option. I have added a save data function for the heap data, saves as a text file with hex and ascii.

This is just a hobby project and I have no web space to host it on, although I can upload it to Handango if anyone wants to play with it.

So the question is, do you want to set the base priority of the process (I think this affects any threads made after the change) or do you want to set the priority of the threads in the process(could be dangerous if you give something too high a priority)?

If your interested email me for more info.
Interesting question, but I'm pretty sure about the answer. The second posibility is much more usable, while in the first posibility - you usually cannot force the process to create new thread to take change of the priority effect. And about uploading to Handango - yes, I'm pretty curious about it.

Warwick
04-08-2004, 07:49 AM
One thing I would be worried about is someone that doesnt know what they are doing, messing with thread priorities and locking up their device. I guess it would only take a soft reset to fix but its still a problem.
Why would you want to mess with them anyway? Cause your geeks and you just have to I think :P Well thats why I do, what about you?

I think the problem here is actualy getting a handle to a thread in another process, easy in Desktop windows, but not in CE.

omikron.sk
04-10-2004, 02:15 PM
You need to change a process priority in certain situations. Somebody already wrote in this article a need to change the process-that-accepts-calls priority to higher. I'm awaiting my Micro Keyboard, which (as I read in some reviews and forums) has a driver set to low priority, and therefor is barely usable in high CPU load (for example games :wink: ), and I want to set it to higher. I think, that guys that might lock their device won't even use this utility while it doesn't offer something that they should understand 8) .