Did Your Pocket PC Adjust For Daylight Saving Time?

[Ed Hansberry]

I have 6 active devices right now and two didn't adjust themselves for Daylight Saving Time this morning, a WM2003 iPAQ 2215 (ROM 1.1) and a WM2003 iPAQ 3900. My Jornada 565 (2002), Axim X5 (2002), iPAQ 3600 (WM2003 - yes, that isn't a typo) and EM500 (2000) all adjusted fine. Since the 3600 did with Microsoft's build of 2003 on it, it leads me to think there is something in the iPAQ/HP builds, or somehow I told them not to autoadjust, though I can't find where to set that setting on my Pocket PC.

[bleeman]

I have only one PocketPC, an iPAQ 5555, running WM2003 and when I powered it up I had the "pop-up" telling me that it had adjusted the clock for Daylight Savings time and that I should confirm it was okay. It was, so no problems here.

My Windows XP Desktops and my Windows Small Business Server 2003 all switched as expected too.

[huangzhinong]

No problem with my two H2210 and one h1945, one zire, one zire 21 and one treo 90.

[omikron.sk]

I've got h2210, too (but using old 1.00 ROM). No problem with that.

[Anthony Caruana]

CHnageover in my part of the world was last week. However, my PPC is set to auto sync time with my PC on connection.

My PC autoadjusted and my PPC (iPAQ 2210 running ROM 1.10) is aat the same time so I guess it did one way or the other

[Iznot Gold]

Last week for me too but all went fine with my Ipaq 3800.....even my washing maching adjusted automatically.....German engineering can't be beat!

[portnoy]

My Toshiba e335 adjusted properly. But my Handspring Visor Deluxe once again required manual adjustment. I'm beginning to think that the switch in that thing to tell it to automatically change might just be painted on. :?

[Sven Johannsen]

Axim X5 (still PPC2002), HP 2215 and 4155, all changed just fine.

[jlp]

Axim X5 (still PPC2002) changed just fine last week as expected in this part of the world.

Looks like the relevant countries in the Americas are running late :grinning devil:.

[jlp]

Last week for me too but all went fine with my Ipaq 3800.....even my washing maching adjusted automatically.....German engineering can't be beat!

...it can... by Swiss engineering :twisted:

[Fuzzy John]

HP Jornada 568 (PocketPC 2002), Dell Axim X5 (WM 2003) and HP iPAQ H2215 (WM 2003 ROM 1.1) all changed fine. Desktops and laptops also changed fine.

However, none of my radio controlled clocks changed. Figure that one out!!!

[Iznot Gold]

As a frequent visitor to Switzerland, I do appreciate how well engineered those cow bells are :D ........

just joking!.....I always carry, on my wrist, a little piece of Swiss engineering excellence!

[bikeman]

My Dell Axim X5 with WM2003 did NOT adjust automatically. I'm wondering if that was an anomaly or if it is something in Dell's version of WM2003. All of the successful X5s noted in this thread (that specified the OS) were running the PPC2002 version. Comments?

[Fuzzy John]

My Dell Axim X5 with WM2003 did NOT adjust automatically. I'm wondering if that was an anomaly or if it is something in Dell's version of WM2003. All of the successful X5s noted in this thread (that specified the OS) were running the PPC2002 version. Comments?My Dell Axim X5 is running WM2003 and it adjusted. I edited my post to specify WM2003.

[rij73]

axim x3i with WM2003 adjusted perfectly. got the little notification bubble when I turned it on this morning. however... pTravelAlarm didn't go off, and was confused about whether the time it was set to go off had passed or not until I deactivated and reactivated all alarms.

[jonathanchoo]

last Sunday was UK's DST and it did NOT change on my h4150.

It did change on my Tungsten T3, Windows XP Pro PC and S-E T630 mobile as well as my girlfriend's Windows XP Home PC, Tungsten T3 and S-E T610.

[palmsolo]

My iPAQ 4350, Tungsten T3, Jornada 720 Handheld PC, SPV E200, and Dick Tracy SPOT watch (of course) all adjusted properly and all, except the SPOT, had a notification that the clock was adjusted for me. Now I just have to go around to all the clocks in my house and move them ahead :D

[ChrisW]

Would you believe my Jornada 567 adjusted twice?

I was up late last night, and when I uplugged my PPC from my desktop I noticed that the time was already an hour "fast". I went upstairs, and settled down in bed to read a bit -- from an ebook, of course. When I powered it up, I got a surprising message: the clock had been updated for daylight savings time. Looking at the time display, it now showed two hours "fast". :crazyeyes:

[pootp]

my ipaq 2210 didn't adjust properly. it just went to 5:00am sharp, when it should have been 9:46am. it did mention that it adjusted the time for DST, but i think there was something screwy as the graphics were messed up. once i closed the dialog, the screen fixed it self up.

[ucfgrad93]

My hp1910 adjusted just fine.

[Howard2k]

4150. Changed fine.

[guinness]

My Ax didn't adjust properly, I even have it set to sync with the PC's clock through Activesync. Changed it manualy and then I also I had to restart Wisbar Adv. for the changes to show in that as well.

[Thinkingmandavid]

My Toshiba e355 did ok, no complaints here. When I turned it on the window popped up, so I am happy.:)
All of my devices did the time change well.

[jgrnt1]

2215, ROM 1.10, adjusted just fine.

[xendula]

My Ipaq 3870 adjusted itself just fine last week. How come the US and Canada are one week late ?!?

[Rikostan]

My 3600 adjusted fine too at exactly 2 AM. I was still up listenint to an audio book and the alarm that told me the time had changed just about made me jump out of my skin.. for some reason it was way louder than the book was..

As an aside, are the instructions anywhere that tell how to get WM2003 on a 3600?

[jimH]

My 2215 with the 1.1 ROM adjusted by springing ahead 2 hours instead of one. I need to check my other 221x.

Jim

I just checked my 2210 with 1.1 ROM. It adjusted correctly.

[jngold_me]

My 2215 with the 1.1 ROM adjusted by springing ahead 2 hours instead of one. I need to check my other 221x.


My Ipaq 4150 did the same thing. I have the 4150 ROM revision 1.0.

[Wasp]

My HP 4355 also changed fine. It didn't leave me any time check notice though. If this is the correct data, I have version 4.20.0 (Build 13252). 8)

[manywhere]

iPAQ 3600 (WM2003 - yes, that isn't a typo)
8O OK, what did I miss?
Ed, have you gotten that done by some ROM image tweaking or does HP like you very much? :wink:

[James Fee]

Mine switched from MST to PDT without a hitch. ;)

Every year I am just amazed at how almost everyone bothers with this socialistic DST. Anyway, when its 115 degress, why would anyone want an extra hour of sunlight? 0X

[JoshB]

My iPAQ 3650 (2000), Jornada 567 (2002), iPAQ 4355 (2003), and MPx200 Smartphone (2002) all adjusted themselves automatically.

My iPod, however, did not. So that's one thing that MS has over Apple. ;)

[Registered]

... iPAQ 3600 (WM2003 - yes, that isn't a typo) ... Since the 3600 did with Microsoft's build of 2003 on it...

*falls off chair and spills his scotch*

Pray tell, how can that be done? I've got an old 36xx with the 32MB ROM (-old skool, early buyer) lying around and would love to bring it back to life with Windows Mobile 2003.

Intrigued....

[shawnc]

Well this is bizarre. Mine have always changed themselves but not this time. I had to manually change it.

[dorelse]

My 4355 and T3 both adjusted fine...my 4355 failed to notify me that it'd adjusted the time though...

[guinness]

... iPAQ 3600 (WM2003 - yes, that isn't a typo) ... Since the 3600 did with Microsoft's build of 2003 on it...

*falls off chair and spills his scotch*

Pray tell, how can that be done? I've got an old 36xx with the 32MB ROM (-old skool, early buyer) lying around and would love to bring it back to life with Windows Mobile 2003.

Intrigued....

One of the benefits of being an MS MVP I suppose.

[jsisson]

My iPAQ 1910 sprang forward 2 hours and my Toshiba E805 didn't adjust at all. The Toshiba also wouldn't synchronize with my laptop even though this is checked in ActiveSync. I thought it had been in the past - I'll have to keep an eye on it.

[bdegroodt]

4355 did not (and almost made me miss my run), but I swear every other iPAQ I've owned prompted for the change. WM 2003, ROM v1

BTW, I voted for No (thinking the question was did your PPC switch) in error. Mine didn't, so plus 1 to the Yes vote (is this confusing anyone else?).

[ChrisB]

my 4355 did not change with the time change. Had to do it myself.

[robert_biggs]

It appears the problem is linked to the Alarm bug with WM2003. I have 2 Dell Axim X5's running WM2003 and both had alarm problems. I installed Burr Oak's Wakeup Tweak which has greatly reduced the frequency of these problems. This morning, one unit powered on with the message that the time had been adjusted for Daylight Savings. My other unit had not properly cycled that night and so my alarm to wake me up did not go off until turned on. Also, it didn't adjust the clock for Daylight Savings. It did not sync the time when syncronized with my PC later that day, even though I had this option selected. :evil:

[dcharles18]

The last device that did this for me was my old EM-500. 3800,3900,1945, and 2215 iPAQs have all failed to do so for me. I was acutally under the assumption that it was an OEM feature and the HP/Compaq just failed to include it. Apparently I was wrong.

[Kevin C. Tofel]

My iPAQ 1910 sprang forward 2 hours and my Toshiba E805 didn't adjust at all.

My Tosh updated with no problem when I turned it on this morning around 10am.....

KCT

[ppcsurfr]

My 2210 updated to 1.10 adjusted fine...

Then I noticed that if I swapped tie zones again... going back to my home time zone which does not use DST... it actually adds an hour!!!

Yep... The DST bug is there... but not when switching to a "Visiting" Time Zone with DST...

mabuhay!!!

Carlo

[danesh]

My iPAQ 1940 did not adjust the time automatically, I had to manually change it. The device looked dumb just like the older Palms that I own.

[Spiral]

my Asus A620 adjusted fine. Same with my Inno 90 phone.

My palm didn't adjust correctly, but that's because it's so whacked it doesn't even know the right date and time.

[Steven Cedrone]

My Jornada and 2215 adjusted without a problem. My wife's Tungsten T did not adjust (Do Palms automatically adjust?)...

Steve

[karen]

My Viewsonic v37 did not adjust on its own, only after syncing did it have the right time.

I think this must be related to the alarm bug...it didn't wake me up an hour late even today.

I might just have to go back to my lousy ipaq 3600 to get a reliable machine.

K

[Aerestis]

my palm adjusted fine, a T|E. It adjusted the first opportunity it had, as far as I know. For some reason, my Windows?? box wasn't capable of updating.

[Dave Beauvais]

My iPAQ h5455 upgraded to WM2003 switched to DST automatically, as did all my PCs and my watch (http://www.casio.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.detail&catalog=Watches&section=DataBank&product=DBCW150%2D1#). :)

[ctmagnus]

Mine updated automatically.

As for Ed's statement on where to find the DST setting, iirc it's done in the initial (after hard-reset) setup. I can't find the setting on my iPaq anywhere. Perhaps MS/the OEMs need to incorporate an option to change this as needed?

[BugDude10]

My HP h2215 w/WM2003 did not adjust, but my Casio E-125 w/PPC2000 did. Very odd.

[Jonathon Watkins]

No problems at all with a X5 Axim running PPC2003.

[jbachandouris]

My 4155 adjusted just fine as well.

[yuit]

for those of you for whom daylight saving time didn't adjust...

are you absolutely sure you guys had the right timezone set up for your location ? for example, perhaps for those on EST, had their time set for Indiana (or Arizona, etc..)

[wizardmaster2k]

well, i have an ipaq 1945 w/ the latest ROM (1.10) and it didnt update. i had an alarm set to wake me up at 8:30, and it did go off.... but it was actually 9:30!! almost late for work. im wondering if it has to do with an alarm set to go off that made it not adjust...

[Jeff Rutledge]

My 2215 and 3870 and my wife's 1910 all changed properly.
:way to go:

[Doug Rausch]

3635 (2002) perfect - 2215 (WM2003) nope, just oblivious

[Ekkie Tepsupornchai]

My 2215 did not adjust either.

[ddavtian]

My ipaq 2215 (rom 1.10) did not adjust but the 1940 did.

[Glohamar]

3955 with WM2003 adjusted.

[TheZodiac]

My Danger/T-Mobile Sidekick did. So there!

[Doug Rausch]

3635 (2002) perfect - 2215 (WM2003) nope, just oblivious

OK - Update from above - not only did the 2215 not update on its own, when I sync'd it to my desktop this morning all the appointments time-shifted to an hour earlier. So now the clock is right but all my appts are wrong. :evil:

BTW: Even the Aero 1550 I still have running updated fine.

Hmmm...time/appts on 2215 are correct, just dorked up my outlook on the PC (dorked - that's a technical term). Oh, this stinks.

[ctitanic]

I have only one PocketPC, an iPAQ 5555, running WM2003 and when I powered it up I had the "pop-up" telling me that it had adjusted the clock for Daylight Savings time and that I should confirm it was okay. It was, so no problems here.


I got the same message in my h2215.

[ctitanic]

I have 6 active devices right now and two didn't adjust themselves for Daylight Saving Time this morning, a WM2003 iPAQ 2215 (ROM 1.1) and a WM2003 iPAQ 3900. My Jornada 565 (2002), Axim X5 (2002), iPAQ 3600 (WM2003 - yes, that isn't a typo) and EM500 (2000) all adjusted fine. Since the 3600 did with Microsoft's build of 2003 on it, it leads me to think there is something in the iPAQ/HP builds, or somehow I told them not to autoadjust, though I can't find where to set that setting on my Pocket PC.

Ok, fine. There are some devices that did not adjust the time correctly. Now the question is why the majority did and just a few did not. I wonder if those that did not adjust the time are using some kind of Alarm program or Today addin. What I´m trying to find is what all those PPCs have in common.

[Fuzzy John]

Ok, fine. There are some devices that did not adjust the time correctly. Now the question is why the majority did and just a few did not. I wonder if those that did not adjust the time are using some kind of Alarm program or Today addin. What I´m trying to find is what all those PPCs have in common.
I am not running any alarm program. My Today plugins are Battery Pack 2004 and Calendar Plus Professional. As I posted earlier, I had no problems with my devices (Dell Axim X5 and HP iPAQ H2215 with ROM 1.1), both running WM2003.

[hollis_f]

3970 with PPC2K2 switched perfectly
2210 with WM2k3 ignored it totally.

I searched for somehwere to turn DST on/off on the 2210 but failed. Is there such a setting?

[Fuzzy John]

I searched for somehwere to turn DST on/off on the 2210 but failed. Is there such a setting?
I can't find that setting on my 2215 either. I only have another iPAQ 3650 around and I can't find it there either. Strange.

[Ryan Joseph]

My AnexTEK sp230 PPC Phone (WM2003) switched perfectly. It asked me to confirm the change and everything was good.

My brother's SX56 PPC Phone (2002) didn't switch. Well, it sort of did...the night before DST, it jumped back an hour, then the next morning it had jumped forward again. Interesting. :roll:

Everything else changed...my PC, my atomic clocks, my VCRs. But not the microwave. I want someone to invent a DST aware microwave. :mrgreen:

[Don't Panic!]

2215, ROM 1.10, adjusted just fine.Same here and I'm in a different US timezone than jgrnt1. I was actually up at 2:00 AM and watched it happen. My t68i phone also updated correctly.

Don't Panic!
Bobby

[ctitanic]

could anyone whose PPC failed, to check this registry key for me?

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Clock\HomeDST

TIA

[Jason Lee]

My 2215 did not adjust.
rom 1.10
pocket plus, batmemtime, and tagenda are my today plugins. I have no alarm software running. I don't usually have any alarm problems either.

My fiance's 3600 (ppc2002) adjusted just fine along with my jornada 430se. :)

[Ed Hansberry]

could anyone whose PPC failed, to check this registry key for me?

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Clock\HomeDST
Mine has 1.

[ctitanic]

could anyone whose PPC failed, to check this registry key for me?

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Clock\HomeDST
Mine has 1.

Just to be sure, it has 1 in one of those devices that you own and did not adjust the time?

[ctitanic]

Would be good to know this key too:

GMT_OFFSET
TZIndex
AppState

[Jason Lee]

I just finnished digging throught the registry before I read this. :)
Mine has 1 also and did not adjust.

Edit:
GMT_OFFSET= 360 (is correct for central US time)
TZIndex= 4
AppState= 11

[Ed Hansberry]

Would be good to know this key too:
GMT_OFFSET = 360
TZIndex = 105
AppState = 12

this is the 2215 that didn't adjust.

[hogwild]

My 1940 with new 1.1 ROM did NOT update properly ... manually reset myself. :?

[ctitanic]

Would be good to know this key too:
GMT_OFFSET = 360
TZIndex = 105
AppState = 12

this is the 2215 that didn't adjust.

What about this other key?

"AppInfo"=hex:\
01,00,00,00,80,01,00,00,55,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,3a,01,00,00,69,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00

You don't have to type yours, just check if everything look the same in your PPC but the one byte in bold, that could be different in your PPC.

[ctitanic]

Would be good to know this key too:
GMT_OFFSET = 360
TZIndex = 105
AppState = 12

this is the 2215 that didn't adjust.

Where are you located Ed, in USA, Central Time?

[ctitanic]

Would be good to know this key too:

this is the 2215 that didn't adjust.

Are you having problem with the alarms in this PPC?
if Yes, have you tried to tweak the registry to fix the alarm bug?

[joelevi]

iPaq 4155: Adjusted fine
iPaq 3815: Adjusted fine

[Jason Lee]

I checked my fiance's 3600 and it has the exact same settings as my 2215. Her's adjusted and mine did not.

GMT_OFFSET= 360
TZIndex= 4
AppState= 11

my 2215's AppInfo is:
01 00 00 00 80 01 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00 EB 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

and i have hacked the registry to fix alarms. I only changed the ACResumingSuspendTimeout and the BattResumingSuspendTimeout to 60 instead of 15.

[ctitanic]

I checked my fiance's 3600 and it has the exact same settings as my 2215. Her's adjusted and mine did not.

GMT_OFFSET= 360
TZIndex= 4
AppState= 11

my 2215's AppInfo is:
01 00 00 00 80 01 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00 EB 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

and i have hacked the registry to fix alarms. I only changed the ACResumingSuspendTimeout and the BattResumingSuspendTimeout to 60 instead of 15.

In my case the AppState is 12. And everthing worked fine in my h2215. My GMT_OFFSET is 300 (Estearn Time) and the TZIndex is 4. I wonder what is the relation between the GMT_OFFSET and the TZIndex, and from where is coming the AppState value.

[ctitanic]

I checked my fiance's 3600 and it has the exact same settings as my 2215. Her's adjusted and mine did not.


Well, that's telling me that I'm looking in the wrong place. The point is to find out in the registry what is different between those two PDAs. Of course that's hard to find out between those PPCs that you have because of the different OS.

[Jason Lee]

Ok I went back and checked my fiance's AppInfo. Her's is the same as yours except that the bold 55 in your's is a 14 in her's.

my 2215 that did not work:
01 00 00 00 80 01 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00 EB 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

her 3600 that did work:
01 00 00 00 80 01 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00 69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00

yours that did work:
01 00 00 00 80 01 00 00 55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00 69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00

The last 12 bits are diffirent...
EB 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (not work)
69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 (work)

Can anyone else confirm this? Ed?
or maybe it is just because we have different operating systems...

[ctitanic]

yours that did work:
01 00 00 00 80 01 00 00 55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00 69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00

The last 12 bits are diffirent...
EB 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (not work)
69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 (work)

Can anyone else confirm this? Ed?
or maybe it is just because we have different operating systems...

That was a friends of mine.

In mine that string looks like this

01 00 00 00 80 01 00 00 23 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00 69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

[axe]

My hp2215 adjusted fine., as did my wife's.

Off topic question, you mentioned Since the 3600 did with Microsoft's build of 2003 on it

Does M$ sell the 2k3 upgrade for 3600? How do you get it?
AXE

[Jason Lee]

That was a friends of mine.

In mine that string looks like this

01 00 00 00 80 01 00 00 23 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00 69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


What about this key?

/HKLM/Time/TimeZoneInformation

Mine and her's are different. Might this be related some how?

[msdavis1972]

I have a Samsung i700. When I checked my device on Sunday AM, I had a message asking me if I wanted to update for DST. I answered yes. It looks as if all my appts after 2AM on 4/4 were moved forward an hour (ex: from 8PM to 9PM), yet my desktop appts remained unchanged (correct) even after I sync my device in its cradle and via exchange server. If I change my appts to their correct times they adjust themselves to be an hour ahead. HELP!!!

[Jason Lee]

I have a Samsung i700. When I checked my device on Sunday AM, I had a message asking me if I wanted to update for DST. I answered yes. It looks as if all my appts after 2AM on 4/4 were moved forward an hour (ex: from 8PM to 9PM), yet my desktop appts remained unchanged (correct) even after I sync my device in its cradle and via exchange server. If I change my appts to their correct times they adjust themselves to be an hour ahead. HELP!!!

Check the timezone on your ppc. go to start settings, then to the system tab. Open the clock control pannel and check if on the time tab your home timezone is selected and it is your correct timezone. (or the same as your desktop pc.)

[msdavis1972]

Thanks, but I tried that. Both my desktop and PPC are set at US Central time. The box allowing for auto adjustment to DST was not checked on my desktop, but everything seemed to switch over fine. Any other suggestions would be appreciated!

[Ed Hansberry]

Would be good to know this key too:

this is the 2215 that didn't adjust.

Are you having problem with the alarms in this PPC?
if Yes, have you tried to tweak the registry to fix the alarm bug?

"AppInfo"=hex:00,00,00,00,80,01,00,00,14, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00, 3A,01,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00, 01,00,00,00

Yes - Central is My home TZ. No alarm probs/hacks.

[Ed Hansberry]

Off topic question, you mentioned Since the 3600 did with Microsoft's build of 2003 on it

Does M$ sell the 2k3 upgrade for 3600? How do you get it?
No. M$ ( :roll: ) doesn't sell it. Only mentioned to show this doesn't seem to be a 2003 issue, and all ofthe successfull switches by other 2003 users backs that up.

[RobertCF]

Ed, you're being a bit obtuse, now, aren't you? You KNOW what we're asking here. There are a lot of us 36xx owners out here who moved on to other machines only because we couldn't get a WM2k3 upgrade. I've got an X5 Advanced, so my precious iPaq 36xx, with PPC2k2, sits quietly charging in display on a shelf, like the little android in A.I. sat at the bottom of the ocean.....waiting beyond hope that somehow it might find new life....

How Did You Do It?

[Jason Lee]

Thanks, but I tried that. Both my desktop and PPC are set at US Central time. The box allowing for auto adjustment to DST was not checked on my desktop, but everything seemed to switch over fine. Any other suggestions would be appreciated!

eep... that was my only quick fix. That may be the bug a few people were talking about.

[Jason Lee]

"AppInfo"=hex:00,00,00,00,80,01,00,00,14, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00, 3A,01,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00, 01,00,00,00

Yes - Central is My home TZ. No alarm probs/hacks.

hmm.. your's is the same as those that function except that the 69 is 04.
The only potential difference seems to be these last 12 bits. Does anyone know what these values actually mean?

[JustinGTP]

I have an Ipaq 2215 and it works just fine, switched to the new clock once I started it up. It has the rom at 1.00 though, not updating till WM2003SE.

-Justin.

[hollis_f]

"AppInfo"=hex:00,00,00,00,80,01,00,00,14, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00, 3A,01,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00, 01,00,00,00

Yes - Central is My home TZ. No alarm probs/hacks.

hmm.. your's is the same as those that function except that the 69 is 04.
The only potential difference seems to be these last 12 bits. Does anyone know what these values actually mean?

My 2210 didn't work - and I also have a 69 for that byte in appinfo

Also
GMT_OFFSET 0
HomeDST 1
TZIndex 4

(Timezone is GMT)

[Jason Lee]

My 2210 didn't work - and I also have a 69 for that byte in appinfo

Also
GMT_OFFSET 0
HomeDST 1
TZIndex 4

(Timezone is GMT)

Oh.. :( well that might kill that theory...

Do you also have the 01 in the 4th from the last bit position?
69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00

If the last 12 bits of yours is exactly the same.. :(

So yours is exactly like this: (except for only the bold 14 maybe being different?)
00 00 00 00 80 01 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00 69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00


So maybe it has something to do with the /HKLM/Time/TimeZoneInformation.

[hollis_f]

[quote=hollis_f]
My 2210 didn't work - and I also have a 69 for that byte in appinfo

Also
GMT_OFFSET 0
HomeDST 1
TZIndex 4

(Timezone is GMT)

Oh.. :( well that might kill that theory...

Do you also have the 01 in the 4th from the last bit position?
69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00

If the last 12 bits of yours is exactly the same.. :(

So yours is exactly like this: (except for only the bold 14 maybe being different?)
00 00 00 00 80 01 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00 69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00

Yup, exactly the same except for a 55 instead of the 14.

[lesgainous]

axim x3i with WM2003 adjusted perfectly. got the little notification bubble when I turned it on this morning. however... pTravelAlarm didn't go off, and was confused about whether the time it was set to go off had passed or not until I deactivated and reactivated all alarms.

Since the time change, pTravelAlarm has been going off an hour later for those alarms that were set before the time change. Newly entered alarms work fine. I'm running WM2003 on a T-Mo PPC Phone, pTravelAlarm v2.00.08, and their WakeUp Tweak utility, set with the defaults.

[Sheena]

My iPaq 2210 adjusted fine (WM2003) and did it on its own, not during sync as I was out of town. No idea if it changed at midnight, 2 or 5am though, and I can't remember if the notification pop-up came up. (Did I mention I was out of town? Party! :oops: ). All appointments were still accurate.

A question for the forum, just a little out of topic: My backup program on the PC (Second Copy) insists on copying every file whenever there's a time adjustment (normally only those changed get sync'd). Anyone ever had this problem with anything that syncs, be it backups or handhelds? No big deal really, but I'm curious what would happen if I updated a file during the time-change hours, which one would be considered more recent?

Thanks!

Rosie

[JAGreene]

I got one of the first Jornada 545's (PPC2000), used it for several years, and it NEVER successfully updated for DST. Now I've had a Toshiba e740 (PPC2002) for a year and a half, and it also has NEVER updated for DST. I'm convinced the feature doesn't exist and everyone else is making it up! :?

FWIW, I've got my clock set to "GMT-6 Central US" (and visiting set to "GMT+1 Paris,Madrid").

[ctmagnus]

Interestingly enough, my Podcet PC adjusted fine, but my cell phone is still having issues.

[mrkablooey]

3650 w/PPC2002: Yes
2215 w/WM2003 (ROM 1.10): No

[brianbar]

I have an Ipaq 2210 and I live in New Zealand. We went out of daylight saving on the last Sunday in March. For a week before the Ipaq translated appointments incorrectly by one hour, and then on the day, even though my host computer (XP) switched OK and changed the time on my Ipaq, the appointments were still 1 hour out. Then suddenly at about 11am on the Sunday everything came right like magic! Quite baffling.

ps. I'm also minding a Tungsten T3 at the moment. It cam through the time change perfectly.

[pbg]

Here in Queensland, Australia my iPAQ h4150 is set to GMT+10 with no DST adjustment for home time, and visiting time to GMT +1 Prague, etc.

It adjusted just fine. Mobimate, which had (during the period where the south-eastern states of Australia had DST) shown times wrong by an hour for other time zones, now shows correct time.

[Mr_Man]

I have been having similar problems with synchronised appointments entered on my iPAQ not appearing correctly in Outlook 2002 and on my E200 SmartPhone since DST adjustment took place two weeks ago.

This link outlines my problems in another Forum...

http://www.modaco.com/viewtopic.php?p=394353#394353

This looks potentially to be a serious bug in certain iPAQs, the E200, Active Sync or all three and needs to be sorted out as a matter of urgency if Microsoft, Pocket PC and SmartPhone is to retain its credibility.

[Mr_Man]

:oops:

I have actually found the answer!

Control Panel-Date and Time-Time Zone...... the "Automatically adjust clock...." box shuld be ticked.

Now everything seems to sync almost perfectly. Times are now correct but the E200 does not seem to like recurring all-day appointments where one single occurence has been altered on my iPAQ 2210. Although the iPAQ displays the amended appointment, my E200 displays the original one!

However I now take back my comments about the effectiveness (or otherwise) of the E200/iPAQ/Active Sync/Microsoft. Very happy with my SmartPhone now....apart from the terrible battery life!

[Fuzzy John]

:oops:

I have actually found the answer!

Control Panel-Date and Time-Time Zone...... the "Automatically adjust clock...." box shuld be ticked.
Now... that is on the desktop (or laptop), isn't it? Unless I am mistaken, the question was "where is the same checkbox on the PocketPC?".

[Sheena]

Now... that is on the desktop (or laptop), isn't it? Unless I am mistaken, the question was "where is the same checkbox on the PocketPC?".
I don't think there's a place for that *on* the PPC (at least not on the iPaq 2210), it just takes the setting from your PC, just like Outlook does. Any of you registry experts :werenotworthy: probably can find the right spot that gets changed, but there's not a direct option that I could find.

My guess is that it would be a big conflict if the PPC was set for one option & the PC it sync's to is set to another, so you can't modify the PPC (not easily anyhow). In any case, my iPaq changed its time accurately by itself (wasn't sync'd until days later), but the option has always been selected in the PC.

Now, one question though, does anyone use a PPC that is NOT sync'd? Just as a stand-alone PDA? It's very limiting, but possible of course. What do you do then? Change the time manually? 8O

Rosie
(wondering)

[Mr_Man]

Yes those settings are on the PC...not sure the Pocket PC has such a setting.

[Fuzzy John]

I don't think there's a place for that *on* the PPC (at least not on the iPaq 2210), it just takes the setting from your PC, just like Outlook does. Any of you registry experts :werenotworthy: probably can find the right spot that gets changed, but there's not a direct option that I could find.
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Now, one question though, does anyone use a PPC that is NOT sync'd? Just as a stand-alone PDA? It's very limiting, but possible of course. What do you do then? Change the time manually? 8O

Rosie
(wondering)
That is what I thought too. Someone speculated that the checkbox may be available once after a hard reset but I did not remember it.

As for a stand-alone PDA... I'm one. And my HP iPAQ H2215 with ROM 1.1 did display the message about the time change when I first turned it on in the morning. So it works. My iPAQ was never sync'd. I only had it connected to a computer to do the ROM 1.1 upgrade and that was followed by a hard reset (intentional) a day later.

I do not miss not having it sync'd. I did use to sync my older PDAs in the past so I do have something to compare with. As for all the applications that I have installed on it, I always get the CAB files, which I actually keep on a spare SD Card which is stored in the Titanium case. I am completely independed of the PC.