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Jonathon Watkins
04-01-2004, 02:00 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/03/31/HNcevoice_1.html' target='_blank'>http://www.infoworld.com/article/04...Ncevoice_1.html</a><br /><br /></div>Microsoft have announced that Windows CE 5.0 should be arriving between June and August of this year. This is of course the operating system that Microsoft designed for use in mobile computing and for embedded devices, e.g. for cars, appliances, petrol pumps etc. (and Pocket PCs, let’s not forget Pocket PCs 8) ). Infoworld have an article up which says: "In the new version of Windows CE, Microsoft has added multiparty audioconferencing capability, unified messaging and integration with Exchange Server with calendar and contact searching features, according to the company. They complement what has been a simpler set of telephony features built in to CE 4.2" Another big area that MS is apparently focusing on is improving the VOIP (voice over Internet Protocol) capabilities built into CE. <br /><br />The article also talked about a MS partner which is "looking to offer its customers "softphone" software based on CE 5.0 to install on devices such as Wi-Fi PDAs (personal digital assistants) that will let them make VOIP calls". So I guess we'll soon be looking at a rash of products that are phone enabled - talkie toaster anyone? :worried: <br /><br />Then there’s this bit from the <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/prodinfo/future/techpreview/default.aspx">Windows Developer Centre</a> "We are excited to offer a preview of the next major version of Windows® CE (previously code-named Macallan) to platform developers. For developers who are familiar with Windows CE, you will notice some significant changes to the product, and we think you will be impressed with what it has to offer. For developers who are new to Windows CE, we are thrilled to share this first experience with you." Isn’t that nice of them – those caring sharing Microsofties. <br /><br />In the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/mar04/03-29macallanpr.asp">Microsoft press release</a> there was this interesting snippet: "Customers said they wanted the ability to switch easily between the Windows CE graphical integrated development environment (IDE) and command-line environments to more quickly build devices with a wide range of functionality. The new Windows CE 5.0 development environment enables developers to take advantage of the capabilities of the command line in the graphical IDE, which will decrease operating system image development time and speed time to market." Command lines – don’t you just love them? (Well apparently the developers do). :wink: <br /><br />Finally there is this: "Microsoft also has dramatically increased support for widely available embedded hardware with more than 50 production-quality drivers optimized for leading chipsets, such as ARM, MIPS, SuperH and x86, enabling OEMs to use the drivers right out of the box rather than having to customize them for a particular hardware platform." Again, bear in mind we are talking about Windows CE here. Remember the days of each PocketPC application coming in multiple versions depending on your CPU type? Well that is no longer a problem as PocketPCs now only use ARM processors, greatly simplifying software creation and distribution. It will be quite a while before we see any Pocket PC version based on CE 5.0, as the work can only start when the underlying system is delivered. I think that with the list of features mentioned above we can definitely expect more connected devices. Progress, don’t you just love it?

Horus
04-01-2004, 02:45 AM
It will be quite a while before we see any Pocket PC version based on CE 5.0, as the work can only start when the underlying system is delivered.
Don't be too sure about that.
It is, after all, the same company and the teams are separated by only a few blocks. It would not surprise me at all if the teams have been working closely on using Macallan in Windows Mobile version for a long time now already. :wink:

Ed Hansberry
04-01-2004, 04:38 AM
It will be quite a while before we see any Pocket PC version based on CE 5.0, as the work can only start when the underlying system is delivered.
Don't be too sure about that.
It is, after all, the same company and the teams are separated by only a few blocks. It would not surprise me at all if the teams have been working closely on using Macallan in Windows Mobile version for a long time now already. :wink:
Agreed. I'd be very surprised if a PPC mule didn't exist based on 5. Remember that PPC2000 shipped 3-4 months before CE3 did.

scouro
04-01-2004, 05:07 AM
I am just happy that Windows CE has made it this far until now.
I remember when I got my first HP Jornada 16 meg, back in the day. Rumors were floating around back then, that Pocket Pc would fail.


So Bring it on!!


Ipaq 5555 - I'm lovin it :D

Kevin Daly
04-01-2004, 08:05 AM
I'm really hoping that Windows Mobile 2005 (if there should be one, and if it ends up being called that) will be built on Windows CE 5.0, and that it will see daylight around the same time as Visual Studio 2005.

And also (while I'm busy making up my wish list), it would be really, really nice if they made serious use of optimised managed (.NETCF)APIs at the OS level, as in A Certain Other Upcoming Microsoft OS that I won't mention because I just mentioned it over on smartphonethoughts.com and I'm trying to cut down...

seeker
04-01-2004, 12:51 PM
As we list our wishes for the OS...

-I wish that MS would enhance some of the PPC delivered packaged/ROM based software packages. PocketWord, PocketExcel... and even deliver a PocketPowerPoint...

Just another level of wishing I guess
:mrgreen: :snipersmile: