iPAQ 2215 Metal Grips Coming Soon from Pocket PC Techs

[Jason Dunn]

Those mad scientists at Pocket PC Techs keep cranking out fascinating little hardware mods to make our Pocket PCs more powerful, and unique to boot. Their latest creation is a set of metal (aluminum I presume?) replacement grips for the iPAQ 2215. Some people have had a problem with the rubber grips falling off, and while they're usually replaced by HP under warranty, this is a way cooler option. :mrgreen: <br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/ppctechs-metalsidegrips.jpg" /><br /><br />I'll post more when they're officially ready to go, including pricing information, but for right now this is just a sneak peek...

[Mitch D]

Now those are cool... I knew it was only a matter of time before someone decided to do some modding to the 221x.

[nasaman007]

My rubber grips fell off long ago. I haven't bothered to get the replacements from HP as just feel it isn't worth the effort for a piece of rubber. But these, I might just actually buy these.

This puts a smile on my face.!

[Aleq]

Salvatioooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon!!!!!!
:mrgreen:

I've been waiting for fine replacement, those rubber grips are pain! Falling off, rubber protrudes from the plastic centre (that holds the grip).

I hope, they ship products to EU...

--Aleq

[Aleq]

By the way, any one has idea, how to get rid of those little, broked off parts that rattle inside?

[JonnoB]

When I sent in my 221x to get a memory upgrade and LCD screen repair they offered to replace my failing rubber grips... I suggested that they consider making replacement side grips. Maybe this idea was original for them?

If they were really smart, they would take the opportunity with the side grips to make side-mounting holes for a flip screen that could be attached easily on the sides! Suggestion: make it out of clear plastic so you can see the display, but stop short of covering the DPAD. I could then use the DPAD or the micro-keyboard with the cover down and see what I am doing.

[Leo the 3rd]

Now this would be a worthwhile upgrade. I did get a set of replacement pads under warranty from HP, but know that in the future, they will fall off again. So a set of metal (aluminum) grips would be right up my alley. I'll wait for them to be announced officially.

[Steven Cedrone]

Very nice! I can't wait for these to be released. I am so tired of wondering when I might have problems with my grips now! I agree with JonnoB though, what a great opportunity to offer a "deluxe" version with flip!

Steve

[Ed Hansberry]

Sweet. My 2nd set of these things is starting to come off. :evil:

[LWesson]

When I sent in my 221x to get a memory upgrade and LCD screen repair they offered to replace my failing rubber grips... I suggested that they consider making replacement side grips. Maybe this idea was original for them?

If they were really smart, they would take the opportunity with the side grips to make side-mounting holes for a flip screen that could be attached easily on the sides! Suggestion: make it out of clear plastic so you can see the display, but stop short of covering the DPAD. I could then use the DPAD or the micro-keyboard with the cover down and see what I am doing.

We are looking at doing that. We will probably make a custom screw that will have a post that extends out for the hinge. We wanted to get the grips out first and see how they're received.

So you would prefer the cover stop at the edge of the LCD, not go to the bottom of the unit?

[huangzhinong]

When I sent in my 221x to get a memory upgrade and LCD screen repair they offered to replace my failing rubber grips... I suggested that they consider making replacement side grips. Maybe this idea was original for them?

If they were really smart, they would take the opportunity with the side grips to make side-mounting holes for a flip screen that could be attached easily on the sides! Suggestion: make it out of clear plastic so you can see the display, but stop short of covering the DPAD. I could then use the DPAD or the micro-keyboard with the cover down and see what I am doing.

We are looking at doing that. We will probably make a custom screw that will have a post that extends out for the hinge. We wanted to get the grips out first and see how they're received.

So you would prefer the cover stop at the edge of the LCD, not go to the bottom of the unit?

Exactly, if you use jornada 560 before, you must know that flipcover is the best.

[Mitch D]

Jason,

Did the Lads and Lasses over at PPC Tech give you a ETA on these?

[Godsongz]

Brilliant! I just received my 2nd replacement set of rubber grips from HP, and ordering those was a painful 35 minute phone call to get to someone that knew what I was talking about. Odd because when I ordered the 1st replacement set last October it was no problem at all.

My hardware warranty runs out in July though so no more free replacements. These metal grips erase any worry about that. Thank you PPCTechs for seeing the need and filling it!!

[Duddy]

YES!!!! :D:D:D

I suggested these a few months back when people started to complain about their grips. :)

[rmasinag]

Thank you PPCTECHS for being kind enough to answer a higher calling by 2200 owners! :D

Now the lid would be interesting indeed, I just never bought a Jornada so i don't know how those things are, but I'll give em a shot!

[Duddy]

We are looking at doing that. We will probably make a custom screw that will have a post that extends out for the hinge. We wanted to get the grips out first and see how they're received.

So you would prefer the cover stop at the edge of the LCD, not go to the bottom of the unit?

I suggest it goes to the very bottom so the D-Pad doesn't get abused in ones pants and to prevent from accidently pressing any of the PIM buttons.

Think Jornada 56x or Casio BE-300. And the lid SHOULD be clear but not like glass. A glass-like clear lid would probably scratch alot. Especially as the point of a flip cover is to essentially get rid of ones case.

If you ever get the chance to use a Casio BE-300, it has a black clear flip cover. Use that kind of plastic except white. ;)

[arnage2]

i would have liked the metal grips for my 2215.

[Sven Johannsen]

My 2215 rubber grips are fine, and I love my SENA case, but if you produce side grips that have the option of a flip cover like the Jornada 540/560, I'll be first in line with hot plastic ready to spend. As in the Jornada, don't make it so that it interferes with the slots, open, closed or in transition. Note the Jornada had detents so that it stayed in the open or closed position by itself.

Up to you whether you go full length or short of the buttons. I'd say clear and short of the buttons, or opaque and cover the buttons. Offer either with easy switch, (like the Jornada) and you can sell both to the same person, and even sell assorted colors. Seven colors for each day of the week would be nice :)

[JustinGTP]

Wow!

These look really really good! but are they shiny? I want it to match the colour of my 2215 as it is, and shiny wont do the trick.

Also, can you do a black metal version that wont rub off (the paint)

I love the black at the sides, but when they fall off, so metal black ones would do the trick!

-Justin.

[LWesson]

Wow!

These look really really good! but are they shiny? I want it to match the colour of my 2215 as it is, and shiny wont do the trick.

Also, can you do a black metal version that wont rub off (the paint)

I love the black at the sides, but when they fall off, so metal black ones would do the trick!

-Justin.

We have some samples being anodized in four different colors today. We'll decide which color to go with after seeing how the brushed metal looks like after being anodized.

Black, Red, Blue & Clear: Clear would not give enough contrast. Dale coffing asked for a red pair, of course. We're also looking at a blue close to the HP logo. We will probably go with black.

[JonnoB]

When I sent in my 221x to get a memory upgrade and LCD screen repair they offered to replace my failing rubber grips... I suggested that they consider making replacement side grips. Maybe this idea was original for them?

If they were really smart, they would take the opportunity with the side grips to make side-mounting holes for a flip screen that could be attached easily on the sides! Suggestion: make it out of clear plastic so you can see the display, but stop short of covering the DPAD. I could then use the DPAD or the micro-keyboard with the cover down and see what I am doing.

We are looking at doing that. We will probably make a custom screw that will have a post that extends out for the hinge. We wanted to get the grips out first and see how they're received.

So you would prefer the cover stop at the edge of the LCD, not go to the bottom of the unit?

I think all the sides need is a hole in the side. The hole would allow a flexible lid to be stretched out and around the grips and then sit snugly in the holes. The lid should be clear so you can see through it.
Yes, the lid should stop just after the LCD screen so the DPAD and app buttons can be pressed or if installed, the micro keyboard can still be used.

For inspiration, look at the old Jornada 56x flip lid for how it should fit in the sides..

In keeping with the brand 'WriteShield' you could call this lid, the 'ScreenShield'

By the way, thanks for doing a good job on my Pocket PC. The extra 64MB are definately worth the upgrade price... and getting the WriteShield installed on my new LCD was helpful. That WriteShield is much better than other ones I had used. I had no idea there was such a difference in quality!

So, was my idea I sent in email original or had you already started working on it?

[LWesson]

I think all the sides need is a hole in the side. The hole would allow a flexible lid to be stretched out and around the grips and then sit snugly in the holes. The lid should be clear so you can see through it.
Yes, the lid should stop just after the LCD screen so the DPAD and app buttons can be pressed or if installed, the micro keyboard can still be used.

For inspiration, look at the old Jornada 56x flip lid for how it should fit in the sides..

In keeping with the brand 'WriteShield' you could call this lid, the 'ScreenShield'

By the way, thanks for doing a good job on my Pocket PC. The extra 64MB are definately worth the upgrade price... and getting the WriteShield installed on my new LCD was helpful. That WriteShield is much better than other ones I had used. I had no idea there was such a difference in quality!

So, was my idea I sent in email original or had you already started working on it?

Actually, Dave Evans is the one that came up with the idea for wood grips first. I then ran with it. But keep thinking of cool accessories, etc. You never know.

[JustinGTP]

We will probably go with black.


That's it! I'm already sold!

[JonnoB]

We will probably go with black.


That's it! I'm already sold!

If costs are not prohibitive, a selection of colors for users to make sure would be nice! A standard run of the mill color, and for a few bucks more, a color of your choice!

[JustinGTP]

Come to think of it, yellow would be nice as well (not fluorescent, yuck :P)

This looks promising, my grips look pathetic on my iPaq!

-Justin.

[mrkablooey]

I'll be in line for these babies when they're out!!

[juni]

I covet them already. :)

[OneAngryDwarf]

Either way, I'll be buying them for sure... my grips finally bit the dust a couple months ago... weird thing though is that i kind of like them gone w/ the exception of the jagged edges and protruding stuff... If these first models you are releasing aren't any smaller than the original grips I'll still buy them but it would be really cool if some slim ones were available... ever mm and cm counts since I'm literally a "Pocket" PC user

[Mojo Jojo]

Would you consider making these in a hardwood? For the top line executive look and feel?

(slaps head: Doh... must read all before posting. Anyone know if Dave Evans was successful?)

[nategesner]

He was successful. Just do a search on replacement grips. I believe he made his out of Rosewood and they look VERY nice! I'd enjoy the feel of wood more than metal, but Dale's not making them for anyone so I'll have to go with something else. :(

[Jason Dunn]

I should add that the 10% off discount that subscribers (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/subscribe.php) get from Pocket PC Techs will apply here, I've confirmed that with Leonard. So if you've been looking for an excuse to subscribe... :wink:

[JustinGTP]

I am slightly disappointed to say the least. I just learned that these babies are only $39.99 plus shipping for two pieces of freakin' aircraft aluminum! I got my Innopocket 2215 Anodized Aircraft Aluminium case with neoprene lining for less that that! I do not see how they can charge such ridiculous prices....

I know I said I would buy one, but not at these prices. I would rather wait for a cheaper solution.

40 Bucks!?!?!?! You have got to be kidding me :roll:

[huangzhinong]

Looks like a price mistake. It should be $3.99 or $9.99, must be a typo. Let me send them an email to remind them. :D

Do you think they are short of money now? $39.99 should include two sets of flip covers + grips + second day shipping.

[Steven Cedrone]

I would rather wait for a cheaper solution.

What makes you think there will ever be a cheaper solution (aside from replacement grips from HP every few moths)?

Steve

[JustinGTP]

I would rather wait for a cheaper solution.

What makes you think there will ever be a cheaper solution (aside from replacement grips from HP every few moths)?

Steve

Heh heh heh - true. But, I still think these are much too expensive...

[JonnoB]

I would pay it, if there is an integrated flip lid.

[mrkablooey]

I am slightly disappointed to say the least. I just learned that these babies are only $39.99 plus shipping for two pieces of freakin' aircraft aluminum! I got my Innopocket 2215 Anodized Aircraft Aluminium case with neoprene lining for less that that! I do not see how they can charge such ridiculous prices....

I know I said I would buy one, but not at these prices. I would rather wait for a cheaper solution.

40 Bucks!?!?!?! You have got to be kidding me :roll:

Come on, man! You just got the big promotion, suck it up and buy some grips! You know you want 'em.

[LWesson]

Looks like a price mistake. It should be $3.99 or $9.99, must be a typo. Let me send them an email to remind them. :D

Do you think they are short of money now? $39.99 should include two sets of flip covers + grips + second day shipping.

Nope, it is not a typo. Try investing several thousand in cnc programming & prototyping as well as the per piece price for doublesided cnc milled parts. Then having them anodized on top of that. These are expensive to produce since they are cnc'd. If they were injection molded, they'd be pennies a piece, but then the injection mold is $10 to $20K.

Don't forget PocketPCThoughts subscribers do get a 10% discount.

[JustinGTP]

Since 10% does a lot :roll:

[Pat Logsdon]

Quit complaining - you have no idea of what's involved in creating custom-made metal parts. I do, and it's not cheap. This is a very reasonable price for what's being offered, and I applaud PPCTechs for taking the time and effort to make it happen.

[Godsongz]

(aside from replacement grips from HP every few months)?

not to mention having to pay for those cheap replacements after your hardware warranty runs out like mine does in July, just to have them break again in 3 months. $40 is maybe a little more than I want to spend on these too, but I'll still be among the first to spend it.

[Ed Hansberry]

Since 10% does a lot :roll:
Justin, why don't you go out and make them of equal quality and cheaper then instead of complaining about it. Then you can sell them.

The truth is I suspect you have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to manufacturing costs.

[JustinGTP]

Since 10% does a lot :roll:
Justin, why don't you go out and make them of equal quality and cheaper then instead of complaining about it. Then you can sell them.

The truth is I suspect you have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to manufacturing costs.

No, I was merely suggesting the price is too high, I bet you that it doesn't cost 40 dollars a pair. If they were to charge less, they would in turn make more because they would have more sales. You should admit it, 40 dollars for 2 slivers of metal? Have you seen how small the sidegrips are?

-Justin.

[JonnoB]

You should admit it, 40 dollars for 2 slivers of metal? Have you seen how small the sidegrips are?


It is not the size, but the cost to machine them to that size. I am sure the material costs are not high, but the tooling to design and manufacture them are high.... especially if there is not an expected large demand for em. Well, the market will determine if it is successful or not. They are valuable to me at about $25 and $40 when it includes a flip-lid.... but that is just me. For another, they may be valuable at the price advertised. I may buy them just to get something cool and make my device look a little different. I don't 'need' them right now.

[pdclarkipaq]

A pair of nice earrings costs about as much. Hey, maybe I'll get them for my wife and if she doesn't like them..... :twisted:

[Ripper014]

Actually the cost for R&D should not be that high for someone who knows what they are doing... the grips should be able to be made from one piece of round bar... and split afterwards... well at least that is how I would go about it...

If you have ever seen a cnc machine in action you would be surprised how many units you can make in a short time... the biggest task a machinist has is the feeding of raw stock after it is all set-up... and the programming is done in an office... on a computer...

There are also associated costs with the plating process... and the materials being used... and it may indeed cost them $40 per set in order meet their profit margins... but I for one find the price to be outside what I am willing to pay... considering a Sena case is the same price...

Also in Canada this brings the price to $60 plus... not including taxes and duties... which would be better than 10% of the cost of the original unit...

As I said in a post at another site... maybe Hp should be chipping in and paying for a part of this solution... if would bring good will to the company as well as maybe saving them some monies overall by not having to stock large levels of replacement grips that continue to fail... and the additional Fedex cost to ship them...

[Ed Hansberry]

No, I was merely suggesting the price is too high, I bet you that it doesn't cost 40 dollars a pair. If they were to charge less, they would in turn make more because they would have more sales.

I would hope not. If it did cost $40 per pair PPC Techs would be pretty stupid to make them and sell them for no profit.

You should admit it, 40 dollars for 2 slivers of metal?Repeated assertions doesn't make it so. Have you seen how small the sidegrips are?Yeah, my 2nd pair of rubber ones are falling off.

[ctmagnus]

and the programming is done in an office... on a computer...

And if the programming is done by a consultant... :wink:

Also in Canada this brings the price to $60 plus... not including taxes and duties... which would be better than 10% of the cost of the original unit...

And if the units are shipped via UPS then you get a $25USD charge on top of that (afaik - I haven't had anything shipped via UPS in over a year for this reason).

[LWesson]

and the programming is done in an office... on a computer...

And if the programming is done by a consultant... :wink:

Also in Canada this brings the price to $60 plus... not including taxes and duties... which would be better than 10% of the cost of the original unit...

And if the units are shipped via UPS then you get a $25USD charge on top of that (afaik - I haven't had anything shipped via UPS in over a year for this reason).

Yes, the programming is done by an outside consultant at $75 per hour. Then you have several revisions of prototypes, making adjustments as you go. Also due to the curves of this part we had to have the original part scanned then converted to a usable format, etc. At this point, we've got over $7K in development and we still haven't started shipping parts. A little expensive for two little slivers of metal. Oh, also a custom vacuum fixture to hold the part inorder to cnc the backside of it. Both sides have to be cut for the part to fit.

You will be able to order these at handheldcanada.com shortly. This will bypass the $25 customs fee, etc.

[Jeff Rutledge]

You will be able to order these at handheldcanada.com shortly. This will bypass the $25 customs fee, etc.

Good to hear. That will help greatly with orders up North I would think. :way to go:

[JonnoB]

At this point, we've got over $7K in development and we still haven't started shipping parts. A little expensive for two little slivers of metal. Oh, also a custom vacuum fixture to hold the part inorder to cnc the backside of it. Both sides have to be cut for the part to fit.


Leonard, I don't think you have to justify your prices to anyone. If the market will bear it, they will sell. No one is holding anyone's feet to the fire to make them buy them.

I applaud your efforts in coming up with a cool solution for what is actually a flaw in the original 221x design. Even if there was no flaw, I think the idea of colored replacement parts is a great idea. I may buy a set just because they could look cool on my newly repaired 2215 (BTW, thank you!) A set with flip cover would ensure I would buy them!

221x owners: Consider you might spend $10 for each replacement rubber grips that fail from HP. Some have replaced theirs twice already. I doubt the metal grips would ever fail.

[LWesson]

Leonard, I don't think you have to justify your prices to anyone. If the market will bear it, they will sell. No one is holding anyone's feet to the fire to make them buy them.


I know we don't. But I do try to help people understand what it takes to make two little slivers of metal. :)

[mrkablooey]

No, I was merely suggesting the price is too high, I bet you that it doesn't cost 40 dollars a pair. If they were to charge less, they would in turn make more because they would have more sales. You should admit it, 40 dollars for 2 slivers of metal? Have you seen how small the sidegrips are?

If they dropped the price to $30 instead of $40, they'd have to sell a heck of a lot to make up the $10 difference. We're talking R&D plus all the molding, etc. in addition to the actual materials. We're not talking ice cream here.

[Pat Logsdon]

No, I was merely suggesting the price is too high, I bet you that it doesn't cost 40 dollars a pair. If they were to charge less, they would in turn make more because they would have more sales. You should admit it, 40 dollars for 2 slivers of metal? Have you seen how small the sidegrips are?
If they dropped the price to $30 instead of $40, they'd have to sell a heck of a lot to make up the $10 difference. We're talking R&D plus all the molding, etc. in addition to the actual materials. We're not talking ice cream here.
:rotfl:

[Ripper014]

I am very aware of what it might take to manufacture these parts...

But as I said with the exchange from US funds to Canadian funds... we are still talking about $60... plus any additional taxes... and shipping... and you do not think that Handheld Canada is not going to tack on whatever charges there are for applicable duties...?

Even at the $60 that is roughly 10% of the original cost of my Hp2210....

I don't know why you are paying to replace your grips... but Hp has replaced mine twice now... at no charge... and will continue to do so until my warranty is up...

The only problem with making these out of metal (and I do not seeing it applied in this case) is that you want to design things so that the cheaper of the mating parts breaks... meaning would you rather damage your grips or the housing itself...

I personally believe that the grips are breaking because the material being used is breaking down with use... I thought that it should be a two piece item... a harder plastic for the locking mechanism with the rubber grip bonded on top... or a wooden cherry wood grip bonded on top...

I applaud your efforts to supply a niche market... I am just not sure that your price point is going to make you successful... but then I would have thought that before starting this project you must have projected the costs... so I am sure the $40 must have seemed reasonable to you... I do wish you luck...

[JustinGTP]

Well,

Since this whole thread seems to be a dig at my comments of these "two little slivers of metal" - it is getting extremely run out. We all know they are expensive for what they are, enough said.

You may go into explaining why they cost that much, but don't think it's going to make me buy a pair, it's way overpriced. And you will just have to see how many pairs to sell to see if it will even pay it off.

And yes, if these were 30 dollars, you would sell way more units, and this would make you more money than if you sold less units at 40; 30 dollars seems more reasonable.

Every one has opinions, or "thoughts", and if you guys are just going to be immature about constructive criticism then I don't know what is wrong with you guys, what the with the ice cream comment anyways? That is absurd.

-Justin.

[LWesson]

Well,

Every one has opinions, or "thoughts", and if you guys are just going to be immature about constructive criticism then I don't know what is wrong with you guys, what the with the ice cream comment anyways? That is absurd.
-Justin.

I hope I wasn't being immature, by explaining what it took to just produce the prototypes. I didn't understand the ice cream comment either.

The little sliver of metal comment did irritate me a little though. These are complex parts to make via cnc and people tend to simplify things too much. Hopefully, you'll change your mind and think the extra $6.00 ($39.99 - 10%) is worth it. They are very nice.

[JustinGTP]

I hope I wasn't being immature, by explaining what it took to just produce the prototypes. I didn't understand the ice cream comment either.

The little sliver of metal comment did irritate me a little though. These are complex parts to make via cnc and people tend to simplify things too much. Hopefully, you'll change your mind and think the extra $6.00 ($39.99 - 10%) is worth it. They are very nice.

Well - no, you handled it fine

I really like the reds and it may just hit me that if I buy them I will never have to worry about them again falling off. (They are gauranteed arent they?)

Sorry if I was rude...

[LWesson]

Well - no, you handled it fine

I really like the reds and it may just hit me that if I buy them I will never have to worry about them again falling off. (They are gauranteed arent they?)

Sorry if I was rude...

Yes, they are guaranteed not to fall off. Unless you lose a screw. Which we send you an extra one of.

[PetiteFlower]

Well, I wouldn't pay that much for new grips. I'm not saying that they're overpriced or that PPCT is trying to gouge people or anything like that. I'm just saying that for me personally, I don't think such a thing is worth spending that much on. But I don't doubt that they'll sell, and that's what matters. I can't fathom why people pay $100 for a case from Vaja, even if it is the highest quality case in the world, it's still $100, that's 1/4 to 1/3 of the way to a new PPC! But people do it. "Fair price" doesn't just have to do with what it costs to make something but also what people will pay for it.

Honda/Justin you were a teensy bit rude with the slivers comment, maybe try to be a little less flame-y? Big difference between saying "I wouldn't get them at that price" and "$40 for that? That's robbery!", no?

[mrkablooey]

The Vaja case analogy is a good one, PetiteFlower.

[Ed Hansberry]

We all know they are expensive for what they are, enough said.
Saying it over and over Young Honda doesn't make it so.

The value of these at $40 is subjective. We don't all live on Planet Justin where your own version of value and logic apply to everyone.

[JustinGTP]

We all know they are expensive for what they are, enough said.
Saying it over and over Young Honda doesn't make it so.

The value of these at $40 is subjective. We don't all live on Planet Justin where your own version of value and logic apply to everyone.

Yes well "Old Audi" you would know that I don't hold those opinions anymore - if you read the last post I make :D

[JonnoB]

Yes well "Old Audi" you would know that I don't hold those opinions anymore - if you read the last post I make :D

You see, the color options and metal styling are starting to grow on you, eh? (said as if he were a Canadian, but isn't)

[JustinGTP]

You see, the color options and metal styling are starting to grow on you, eh? (said as if he were a Canadian, but isn't)

Indeed!

On another note; I wonder if they will ever make a flip cover kind? :D

[Ed Hansberry]

We all know they are expensive for what they are, enough said.
Saying it over and over Young Honda doesn't make it so.

Yes well "Old Audi" you would know that I don't hold those opinions anymore - if you read the last post I make :D
The one you made at 1:54pm JST (Jason Standard Time) at http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=216388&amp;highlight=#216388 - a full 5 hours after my reply? Heh. I'm good, but not that good. :wink:

[JustinGTP]

Ed,

Oh no, I think we are getting confused here. If you read my post, in this thread the page before, when I was chatting with Lwesson :D

[JonnoB]

You see, the color options and metal styling are starting to grow on you, eh? (said as if he were a Canadian, but isn't)

Indeed!

On another note; I wonder if they will ever make a flip cover kind? :D

This quote (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=214012&highlight=#214012) leads me to think it is a definate possibility....

[Ripper014]

Hopefully, you'll change your mind and think the extra $6.00 ($39.99 - 10%) is worth it. They are very nice.


I assume you mean $4.00 off and not $6.00 right...?

[LWesson]

Hopefully, you'll change your mind and think the extra $6.00 ($39.99 - 10%) is worth it. They are very nice.


I assume you mean $4.00 off and not $6.00 right...?

What I meant is: Several people were saying $30 would be ok. So $39.99 - 3.99 = $36.00 - $30 = $6.00

Sorry, I'm an engineer. :)

[Ed Hansberry]

Has anyone flown with these? I was wondering if the aluminimum grips caused the problems when being run through the X-Ray machine.

[LWesson]

Has anyone flown with these? I was wondering if the aluminimum grips caused the problems when being run through the X-Ray machine.

I haven't heard back from anyone that they're an issue. Since they're part of the unit, I don't think it is an issue. I know Dale updated his unit and has gone half way around the world with it.

[Ed Hansberry]

Has anyone flown with these? I was wondering if the aluminimum grips caused the problems when being run through the X-Ray machine.

I haven't heard back from anyone that they're an issue. Since they're part of the unit, I don't think it is an issue. I know Dale updated his unit and has gone half way around the world with it.
Sweet. Thanks Leonard! I am loving my blue pair. :mrgreen:

[k0diak]

i just ordered a silver pair for my 2215. cannot wait to try them out :D

[DigitalD]

i just ordered a silver pair for my 2215. cannot wait to try them out :D

me too, ordered yesterday :)

currently running without grips, they totally fell apart. had to get thise cause if I damage this warrenty sticker I lose it ( it a four year )

[DigitalD]

i just ordered a silver pair for my 2215. cannot wait to try them out :D

me too, ordered yesterday :)

currently running without grips, they totally fell apart. had to get thise cause if I damage this warrenty sticker I lose it ( it a four year )

They came :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0X