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Janak Parekh
01-26-2004, 04:30 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://usa.asus.com/products/communication/wireless/wl-330/overview.hTm' target='_blank'>http://usa.asus.com/products/commun...30/overview.hTm</a><br /><br /></div>PPCT reader DrtyBlvd originally meant to send us <i>this</i> link, which is even smaller than the APC unit I mentioned a couple of hours ago. :lol:<br /><br />"As small as a deck of cards, the Pocket Wireless AP WL-330 is not only a wireless access point (AP) but also a wireless bridge/repeater and wireless Ethernet adapter; providing superior flexibility when building a wireless environment! Moreover, WL-330 is a plug n' play device. Set up a wireless environment is never difficult to you."<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/parekh-20040125-AsusRouter.jpg" /><br /><br />It's 2.2oz! 8O 8O At <i>this</i> size, corporate espionage might become trivial. I could just imagine the next generation of movies... instead of quietly walking into the boss's office of the EvilMegaCorporation, the hero would start whistling as he plugged one of these in behind the secretary's computer. :lol:

dean_shan
01-26-2004, 08:15 AM
Looks nice. It could come in handy when traveling.

Thinkingmandavid
01-26-2004, 02:02 PM
I did a quick search and found a short article on it. I would like to have this for traveling as well. It appears to be very flexible for the size. I would like to use this while visiting some family in AZ. The ethernet would be great for my laptop for serious work, or for being a bum using the wi fi.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13681
Hopefully, I can find some better info on it.

KAMware
01-26-2004, 03:14 PM
It is available here for $59: http://avlogic.com/product.cgi?code=18040022

Godsongz
01-26-2004, 03:16 PM
The corporate espionage statement is at the same time cute and very scary. What is the best way, or methodology, or combination of hardware/software, or whatever of determining if someone actually has plugged one of these things into a corporate lan. How do you find these devices when you are not the person who planted them?

David Prahl
01-26-2004, 03:56 PM
Not that any IT staff members would have the time, but I suppose you'd have to search the building for "bugs" like these every month or so. If you find an access point called "default" that has a 100% signal inside a broom closet, I'd say you've found your AP.

Gen-M
01-26-2004, 04:08 PM
The corporate espionage statement is at the same time cute and very scary. What is the best way, or methodology, or combination of hardware/software, or whatever of determining if someone actually has plugged one of these things into a corporate lan. How do you find these devices when you are not the person who planted them?

Try AirSnare (http://home.comcast.net/~jay.deboer/airsnare/)
to see who's on your network.

miterb
01-26-2004, 04:23 PM
Will this device act as a stand-alone repeater? I have my Linksys router in a back room of my house. I can only access it with my Toshiba e740 up to about 30 ft away. To get to my front rooms, the signal has to pass through several walls and kitchen cabinets/closets. If I just plug the Asus in to a power source 30 ft from the Linksys will it forward the signals on another 30 ft or so? My front rooms are 40-60 ft from the Linksys.

Brad

Dave Potter
01-26-2004, 05:43 PM
It is available here for $59: http://avlogic.com/product.cgi?code=18040022

This vendor doesn't appear to ship outside of the US. Has anyone found this item at a Canadian vendor - or - a US one that will ship to Canada?

Steven Cedrone
01-26-2004, 06:02 PM
Will this device act as a stand-alone repeater? I have my Linksys router in a back room of my house. I can only access it with my Toshiba e740 up to about 30 ft away. To get to my front rooms, the signal has to pass through several walls and kitchen cabinets/closets. If I just plug the Asus in to a power source 30 ft from the Linksys will it forward the signals on another 30 ft or so? My front rooms are 40-60 ft from the Linksys.

Brad

It looks like it will, download the manual and take a look at Chapter 3 - Configuration. Go to WDS setup...

Link to manual download... (http://usa.asus.com/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=WL-330)

Steve

Jeff Rutledge
01-26-2004, 06:16 PM
It is available here for $59: http://avlogic.com/product.cgi?code=18040022

This vendor doesn't appear to ship outside of the US. Has anyone found this item at a Canadian vendor - or - a US one that will ship to Canada?

I'm interested in this as well. I remember us talking about this a while back in another thread. This would be a great item to take with me on trips. It would be great to be able to work on my laptop from the counch or surf from my iPAQ from bed. Ahhh the flexibility this would give...

But like Zipper, I need it up north!

dhettel
01-26-2004, 06:49 PM
It is available here for $59: http://avlogic.com/product.cgi?code=18040022

This vendor doesn't appear to ship outside of the US. Has anyone found this item at a Canadian vendor - or - a US one that will ship to Canada?

Is it just my eyes, their seems to be a difference in the image posted here, and at ASUS. The one at ASUS seems, much more sexy to my eyes. Anyone happen to know which one is correct?

miterb
01-26-2004, 08:23 PM
It looks like it will, download the manual and take a look at Chapter 3 - Configuration. Go to WDS setup...

Steve

Thanks for the info. If the bridge did not work I would at least end up with an ethernet connection for motel rooms.

Only downer I see is the added weight of carrying another power supply.

Brad

Numsquat
01-26-2004, 08:28 PM
I'm still pretty new to wireless so if anyone could help me out, that would be great.

Is this something I could use to take an existing Ethernet connection (say at a friends home or hotel), plug the Ethernet into this and then be able to have wireless access to a laptop or PDA?

ADBrown
01-26-2004, 08:41 PM
Only downer I see is the added weight of carrying another power supply.


The specs say that it wants 4 volts. You could probably run it off 3 or 4 alkaline or NiMH batteries, or a single LiIon cell. Depending on its tolerances and current demands, it might even run off a USB port. No way to know without hands-on, though.

Janak Parekh
01-26-2004, 08:53 PM
The corporate espionage statement is at the same time cute and very scary. What is the best way, or methodology, or combination of hardware/software, or whatever of determining if someone actually has plugged one of these things into a corporate lan.
The best way is to set up your LAN in such a way that unauthorized devices don't get LAN access. Some switches can be programmed to support only authorized MACs, for example. Setting up IPsec might not be a terrible idea either, although it's a lot of work.

--janak

Sven Johannsen
01-26-2004, 08:58 PM
I'm still pretty new to wireless so if anyone could help me out, that would be great.

Is this something I could use to take an existing Ethernet connection (say at a friends home or hotel), plug the Ethernet into this and then be able to have wireless access to a laptop or PDA?

That is exactly what it is designed to do. Actually has some features beyond that, but the Access Point use is just what you indicated.

Jonathan1
01-26-2004, 09:11 PM
The corporate espionage statement is at the same time cute and very scary. What is the best way, or methodology, or combination of hardware/software, or whatever of determining if someone actually has plugged one of these things into a corporate lan. How do you find these devices when you are not the person who planted them?

I do a monthly sweep of the building with my laptop and network stumbler. Ya know if they don’t already have one I’m betting at some point down the road someone will have WIFI sniffing sentries that you place around your environment and plug into a standard Ethernet jack that reports back to you on the detection of a WIFI signal and its location. Place 3 units in a environment and you can track the location of where a WIFI signal is coming from. Should be doable and relatively cheap to implement with the right coders and hardware engineers.

Numsquat
01-26-2004, 09:24 PM
Thanks Sven :). Now I have to order me one :D

I'm still pretty new to wireless so if anyone could help me out, that would be great.

Is this something I could use to take an existing Ethernet connection (say at a friends home or hotel), plug the Ethernet into this and then be able to have wireless access to a laptop or PDA?

That is exactly what it is designed to do. Actually has some features beyond that, but the Access Point use is just what you indicated.

Dave Potter
01-26-2004, 10:18 PM
Oh man - I could really use one of these for my iPAQ and the wireless laptop I am getting next week. I travel alot and this would be perfect. If only I could find a vendor that ships to Canada!!!

David Prahl
01-26-2004, 11:22 PM
If only I could find a vendor that ships to Canada!!!

"David Distributors" will mail you one if you buy him one! :lol:

Dave Potter
01-26-2004, 11:25 PM
If only I could find a vendor that ships to Canada!!!

"David Distributors" will mail you one if you buy him one! :lol:

Wow! How selfless of you! :roll:

Collision
01-27-2004, 01:24 AM
I always thought about getting a product like this. It would be good in a hotel or some place where there was only wired ethernet and you only had a wireless only device like a ppc.

gohtor
01-27-2004, 02:52 AM
have a proper case mod to look like a telephone port and you're in the 007 zone. =)

ctmagnus
01-27-2004, 07:33 AM
C'mon! Isn't it obvious by now? Every Canadian wants one!

tato68
01-27-2004, 01:09 PM
The corporate espionage statement is at the same time cute and very scary. What is the best way, or methodology, or combination of hardware/software, or whatever of determining if someone actually has plugged one of these things into a corporate lan. How do you find these devices when you are not the person who planted them?

I do a monthly sweep of the building with my laptop and network stumbler. Ya know if they don’t already have one I’m betting at some point down the road someone will have WIFI sniffing sentries that you place around your environment and plug into a standard Ethernet jack that reports back to you on the detection of a WIFI signal and its location. Place 3 units in a environment and you can track the location of where a WIFI signal is coming from. Should be doable and relatively cheap to implement with the right coders and hardware engineers.

With Netstumbler you are only looking at access points with the "Broadcast SSID" enable. If disable, you will not be able to "see" the signal. You will need a Wireless Analyzer to find AP's Signals.

I am Wireless Consultant and I do this for a living!

Dave Potter
01-28-2004, 12:12 AM
So - has anyone found this item in Canada yet? Or a US vendor that will ship to Canada?

Jonathan1
01-28-2004, 01:21 AM
With Netstumbler you are only looking at access points with the "Broadcast SSID" enable. If disable, you will not be able to "see" the signal. You will need a Wireless Analyzer to find AP's Signals.

I am Wireless Consultant and I do this for a living!

At this point my main concern is one of our employees bringing in a AP for the heck of it and not telling the IT department (Me.) The average user isn't going to know enough about configing an AP to setup the situation you are suggesting and, maybe I'm wong on this, most of the AP you pick up off the shelf (linksys, D-link, apple.) don't have the option to turn off the "Broadcast SSID" Does the thing mentioned in this thread have this option?

ctmagnus
01-28-2004, 02:36 AM
maybe I'm wong on this, most of the AP you pick up off the shelf (linksys, D-link, apple.) don't have the option to turn off the "Broadcast SSID"

My several year-old Linksys APs have this option.

Does the thing mentioned in this thread have this option?

I sure hope so, cuz if not I probably won't be getting one and I really, really want one.

rcobourn
01-29-2004, 07:25 PM
Just received this unit from AVLogic. It's very nice. The unit itself is about the size of a deck of playing cards, and the A/C adapter, at about a quarter that size, is the smallest I've ever seen. It also comes with a short ethernet adapter, a driver disc, and a case for the whole kit. It's a bit bulky for my laptop bag when in the case, but carried loose it won't be a problem at all. I haven't tested it yet, so more later.

anthonymaw
01-30-2004, 03:51 PM
Then just have it shipped to a US mail forwarding company who will in turn ship it to Canada. Of course there will be more shipping charges incurred but that might still be worth it. Check out Security Mail Services (www.securitymailservices.com) in the border town of Blaine, WA.

DrtyBlvd
01-30-2004, 05:45 PM
I'm still trying to find it in the UK! :roll:

ctmagnus
01-30-2004, 09:37 PM
Then just have it shipped to a US mail forwarding company who will in turn ship it to Canada. Of course there will be more shipping charges incurred but that might still be worth it. Check out Security Mail Services (www.securitymailservices.com) in the border town of Blaine, WA.

Better yet (imo), have it shipped to someone you know in the states and have them forward it to you. It'll cost you less in the long run (again, imo).