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Jason Dunn
10-08-2003, 12:07 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.brighthand.com/article/RumorMill_iPAQ_h4000_Series_Coming_Soon' target='_blank'>http://www.brighthand.com/article/R...ies_Coming_Soon</a><br /><br /></div>"Some of the most hotly anticipated products of this season are the iPAQ h4155 and iPAQ h4355. Though they have not yet been officially announced by HP, one of them has the FCC approval to be released, and both of them are now listed on eCost. Internally, these two will be quite similar and both will offer Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. However, their outer appearances will be quite different. The h4355 will have a built-in small keyboard, while the h4155 will not. The 4155 is actually close in size to HP's popular h1900 series. The eCost listing brings no additional information to light about these models, but it does help to confirm previous rumors..."<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/HP_h4355_2_S.jpg" /><br /><br />I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on the 4355 - I adore built-in keyboards, and I'm practically oscillating with joy that HP went this route. Remember you can <a href="http://estore.shopplex.com/app/storefront.aspx?cat_id=162&inv_id=30929135006593&modid=30214092059015&aid=5">pre-order the HP4155</a> and the <a href="http://estore.shopplex.com/app/storefront.aspx?cat_id=162&inv_id=30929135020125&modid=30214092059015&aid=5">HP4355 as well</a>.

Alexis
10-08-2003, 12:18 AM
More info for the 4350:

ADDED:
Whohoo, backlit keyboard!


Integrated WLAN 802.11b:
Enables high speed wireless access to the internet, email, corporate data and solutions such as voice over IP
WLAN and Bluetooth can also be used at the same time with no interference
Connect at the office, home, or WLAN hotspots (even your local coffee shop)
Create personal networks using peer-to-peer communication with another WLAN-enabled device for collaboration and information sharing
Internal antenna


Integrated Bluetooth for wireless communication with other Bluetooth devices:
Access the Internet or your email via a Bluetooth enabled mobile phone
Print to a Bluetooth equipped printer
Exchange business cards, calendar appointments, documents, and more with other Bluetooth devices
Wirelessly synchronize data with your Bluetooth desktop or notebook PC using ActiveSync


Enhanced security protection for your device, information and connection:
VPN software provides enhanced security for wireless connection
64-bit and 128-bit WEP offers enhanced security for an authorized connection and data transfer when connected wirelessly
F-Secure FileCrypto Data Encryption provides protection against unwanted data disclosure
Support for LEAP, WEP and 802.1X

Achieve greater productivity with reliable technology

Integrated and backlit keyboard enables you to stay productive by entering notes or emails into the iPAQ Pocket PC with the easy-to-use standard layout keyboard at your fingertips.


Removable/rechargeable Lithium-Ion battery for continuous power:
1560 mAh battery comes standard
Optional extended 3600 mAh battery allows your HP iPAQ Pocket PC to keep running longer


Secure Digital slot for greater storage and expansion

RAM standard 64MB
RAM maximum 64MB
RAM details 64-MB SDRAM, 32-MB Flash ROM Memory (55- MB user accessible)
ROM details 32MB ROM
Display size 3.5
Display technology backlit LCD
Display and video details 3.5” transflective TFT display with 64K Colors
Modem details Integrated WLAN 802.11b, Bluetooth, IrDA
Battery type Lithium Ion
Battery details Battery - Removable/Rechargeable 1560 mAh Lithium-lon user swappable battery. Optional extended 3600 mAh Lithium-lon battery available for purchase
OS type Pocket PC 2003
OS version 2003
Software details Microsoft Windows Mobile 2003 Premium, Pocket versions of Microsoft software are included (Outlook, Word, Excel and Internet Explorer)
Additional details 400 MHz Intel® XScale™ technology-based processor, Rechargeable 900 mAh Lithium-lon user swappable battery. Estimated usage time of fully charged battery up to 12 hours. Charging time up to 4 hours.
Form factor handheld
Width, inches 2.9
Height, inches 0.6
Depth, inches 5.4
Physical, details Integrated and backlit keyboard
Linux Compatible Info Not Available
Manufacturer Part # FA172A#ABA
Parts Warranty 1 year
Labor Warranty 1 year
Package Contents HP iPAQ Pocket PC h43xx unit or h41xx unit, USB Desktop cradle/charger, AC Adapter, Slip cover, stylus, battery, Getting Started poster, charger adapter, and HP iPAQ Pocket PC Companion CD


Size for the ipaq h5000:
Width, inches 3.3
Height, inches 0.63
Depth, inches 5.43


Compared to the h4000 w/kebyard
Width, inches 2.9
Height, inches 0.6
Depth, inches 5.4

Wes Salmon
10-08-2003, 12:21 AM
Looking good but I'd probably go with the 4100 series since the 4300 seems a tad long with the built in keyboard.

Not sure I want to go back to iPaq 3600 series sized devices just for a keyboard. :)

ricksfiona
10-08-2003, 01:11 AM
If the 4100 series came with 128MB, it would be a done deal.

JohnJohn
10-08-2003, 01:26 AM
The 43xx WILL be my next PDA. Keyboards rock! WHEN!

Janak Parekh
10-08-2003, 01:30 AM
Looking good but I'd probably go with the 4100 series since the 4300 seems a tad long with the built in keyboard.
It's about the same as the length of the iPAQ 3xxx/5xxx units. Not too bad, IMHO -- I pocketed those all the time without too much trouble.

But... in Foo's immortal words, "Where's the screen cover!?" :evil:

--janak

Jonathon Watkins
10-08-2003, 01:34 AM
And in many people's mortal words - where's the 640x480?

Next!

dean_shan
10-08-2003, 02:22 AM
Seems big with the keyboard. I little to long for me.

jet8810
10-08-2003, 02:28 AM
yea, that keyboard does look appealing, but its pretty big. Then again, maybe im spoiled with my HP 2215 :-P.

palmsolo
10-08-2003, 03:31 AM
I don't care how long the 4355 is since I am used to large PDAs with the NR70 and NX70 under my belt. I absolutely love thumb keyboards, I now have the CLIE UX50, and my problematic iPAQ 2215 will be going back to Fry's the day I see the 4355 on the shelf. I have experienced random hard resets and dead batteries on the 2215 and can't wait to get a WiFi/Bluetooth/keyboard Pocket PC in my hands!

Thinkingmandavid
10-08-2003, 03:45 AM
I have always liked the idea of keyboards. My Diamond mako was great for that reason. Folding keyboards are of course great as well. When I first saw it, to me it seemed a bit large. I agree with the 2215, 1945, and 1935 being a better size of a pda. I dont mind them giving more screen real esate, but it just seems to long to me. I havent seen one in person obviously, so maybe that will change when I have the opportunity to try it out at a store. I am also wondering how the keys feel and how easy they are to use. The size of the keys and everything else that goes along with it.

Cliffbrooks
10-08-2003, 03:46 AM
Oscillating with joy? Please tell me you didn't write that!

lol!

Take a deep breath Jason, and join us in the real world. It's nice and warm in here. Blue sky, green grass...

ctmagnus
10-08-2003, 04:01 AM
Take a deep breath Jason, and join us in the real world. It's nice and warm in here. Blue sky, green grass...

I think you got that last part backwards...

;)

palmsolo
10-08-2003, 04:03 AM
I hope they use the same type of keyboard that HP provided with the Jornada 560 series accessory. I loved the tactile feel and layout of that keyboard and would be happy with something along those lines. I would also like good keyboard integration so my stylus use could be minimized.

I wish there was more RAM or ROM, but I guess we can't get everything in one device yet. The large battery, with optional accessory, looks promising.

jnunn
10-08-2003, 04:59 AM
It looks like HP just stuck an after market keyboard on the 4100 and called it a product. I like the Treo 600 design: the keyboard is much more compact, elegant, and pocketable.

Maybe when HP ups the screen to VGA they will design a better keyboard for this unit. Again, more reasons to wait until the next release.

JohnJohn
10-08-2003, 05:09 AM
I don't care how long the 4355 is since I am used to large PDAs with the NR70 and NX70 under my belt. I absolutely love thumb keyboards, I now have the CLIE UX50, and my problematic iPAQ 2215 will be going back to Fry's the day I see the 4355 on the shelf. I have experienced random hard resets and dead batteries on the 2215 and can't wait to get a WiFi/Bluetooth/keyboard Pocket PC in my hands!

I'm with you I treid a UX50 for 14 days, that keyboard rocks, now if it was only PPC. I think it's the space between the keys, something. The OS and applications were just terrible though. (.txt viewers :P). Battery life also was an issue for me. Anyway...43xx needs CF and I would be even more "in" than I already am.

handheldplanet
10-08-2003, 09:45 AM
I DEFINITELY can't wait to get one of these. It would be like my trusty ol' 5455 but with a keyboard! Sure the screen's smaller, but so's the device (by a little :lol: )

I'm with Jason - a built-in keyboard's where it's AT!

Pocket PC Dubai
10-08-2003, 10:50 AM
If I had to choose between the h5550 and this device I would certainly go for the h4350, just for the keyboard. :)

Skoobouy
10-08-2003, 11:13 AM
Is the h4355 really shorter than an iPaq h5000? That's almost too amazing to believe. But if it's true, then I would just have to give anyone a "Three Stooges" *poink!* who complained about the size.

On the other hand, I'll probably go with the h4155. I mean, c'mon, it's among the smallest PPC's ever, with a ridiculous featureset. I would go for the keboard only if it was detachable. Thumb keyboards are accessories, not essentials.

thunderck
10-08-2003, 01:24 PM
I would love to see built in 1x or GPRS on this baby. Maybe later than sooner though. :| Please someone tell me i'm wrong.

Palmguy
10-08-2003, 01:49 PM
Is the h4355 really shorter than an iPaq h5000? That's almost too amazing to believe. But if it's true, then I would just have to give anyone a "Three Stooges" *poink!* who complained about the size.

On the other hand, I'll probably go with the h4155. I mean, c'mon, it's among the smallest PPC's ever, with a ridiculous featureset. I would go for the keboard only if it was detachable. Thumb keyboards are accessories, not essentials.

Good...I'm not the only one going with the 4155. I don't have much use for a KB, but man I'm excited, finally built-in wifi in a device smaller than the 5400/5500!

CTSLICK
10-08-2003, 02:09 PM
I am starting to warm to the idea of an integrated keyboard but NOT in this form factor...I really do want a PPC that looks and feels I whole lot like a Sony UX-50 or a Sharp CL-760. Small clamshell with a flip screen. I suppose it makes economic sense for HP to continue to pivot on the same basic form factor but from where I stand it seems like they are marching in place. Please let SOMEBODY break out of the same thing different day funk plaguing the PPC OEM's.

RobertCF
10-08-2003, 03:28 PM
Wow, it's a color calculator!!!! What an ugly piece of flotsam. I just don't see what people find so useful about what they laughlingly call a keyboard when you practially need my wife's fingernails to use them and the key portion looks so abnoxiously ugly. It's not a REAL keyboard, which I can REALLY type on quickly, and it's not nearly as handy as the other built-in input modes that the PocketPCs already come with. Just amazing.

jnunn
10-08-2003, 03:48 PM
Is the h4355 really shorter than an iPaq h5000?

The 4355 may be a mm or so shorter than the 5555 but like the Toshiba design it lacks curvature at the bottom of the unit. Hence, the 4355 will feel longer in you hand and in your pocket than the 5555. Hold a Toshiba and an any of the iPAQ 3000 or 5000 series side my side and you will see what I mean.

Scott R
10-08-2003, 03:52 PM
I am starting to warm to the idea of an integrated keyboard but NOT in this form factor...I really do want a PPC that looks and feels I whole lot like a Sony UX-50 or a Sharp CL-760. Small clamshell with a flip screen. I suppose it makes economic sense for HP to continue to pivot on the same basic form factor but from where I stand it seems like they are marching in place. Please let SOMEBODY break out of the same thing different day funk plaguing the PPC OEM's.I agree. I like the thumbboard idea but it doesn't really work well on a portrait-mode device. I think we have MS' "guidelines" to thank for this. Hopefully the rules they supposedly loosened up a couple months ago included allowing for landscape mode and we'll see some products that make use of that sooner rather than later.

I'd love to play with an h4350 live, but I suspect that it will feel too top-heavy.

Scott

apeguero
10-08-2003, 05:29 PM
This is what a Pocket PC with a built-in keyboard should look like:

http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/009315.php#009315

WOW! I hope it makes it here from Korea! I wonder if since it's meant to be a direct competitor of the Samsung i700, which is used by Sprint and Verizon, if it will eventually make it here at the end of the year. If it does then I'll hold off on considering the Treo 600 0X

reidme
10-08-2003, 05:30 PM
The styling looks a lot like the Treo 600, but with a stretched screen and no antenna.

Scott R
10-08-2003, 05:41 PM
Actually, the only time when I really want a traditional phone keypad is when I'm driving and can't deal with the device with two hands. This would be too kludgy for that because I'd have to leave it in the open position when I'm in the car in order to be able to take advantage of it. Plus, it would end up being very top-heavy.

Scott

apeguero
10-08-2003, 05:46 PM
That's what voice dial is for :D

Jonathon Watkins
10-08-2003, 06:21 PM
This is what a Pocket PC with a built-in keyboard should look like:

http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/009315.php#009315

WOW! I hope it makes it here from Korea! I wonder if since it's meant to be a direct competitor of the Samsung i700, which is used by Sprint and Verizon, if it will eventually make it here at the end of the year. If it does then I'll hold off on considering the Treo 600 0X

"192MB of RAM" 8O Not bad!

I'd still prefer a clambshell keyboard though.

Alexis
10-13-2003, 04:51 AM
Wow, it's a color calculator!!!! What an ugly piece of flotsam. I just don't see what people find so useful about what they laughlingly call a keyboard when you practially need my wife's fingernails to use them and the key portion looks so abnoxiously ugly. It's not a REAL keyboard, which I can REALLY type on quickly, and it's not nearly as handy as the other built-in input modes that the PocketPCs already come with. Just amazing.
I agree, nowday devices are made for Hollywood models with skinny legs, do we forget that over 60 percent of americans are overweight?
That means Fat Fingers. We want big keyboards, with even something to make noise when the button is pressed.
The average american's fingers would probbably press "9 keys" at a time... I would need to use my girlfriends nails as well.
The thumbboard would be way too much. The many layers of fat prohibit the brain from feeling when the buttons are pressed therefore, a keyboard just like the one found of the Comodorre 64 would be great! Hear a click for every button pressed.
I prefer having to press each button on my " "abnoxiously ugly" - "VIRTUAL keyboard" " with a stylus instead of my own fingers on a real keyboard.

jnunn
10-13-2003, 07:10 AM
Let's be careful not to hurt anyone's feelings when posting irony and satire.

Kati Compton
10-13-2003, 07:19 AM
CNet seemed to be pretty impressed by the keyboard in their review - said it was very functional... This is, of course, something that is very subjective, though.

Scott R
10-14-2003, 04:52 AM
alexis, too funny. Didn't you know that when you order the iPaq h4350 direct from HP's site, they give you the option to "super-size it" for only $50 more? :lol:

Scott

RobertCF
10-20-2003, 09:03 PM
Actually, Alexis, I hadn't thought about the larger people. I have small hands, and those thumb boards are ridiculous. I'm sorry, but I consider the thumb boards with the same contempt as I do tablet PCs. Somewhere in between things that are actually useful. If I want to type something, I want to TYPE something. If I don't need carry a keyboard around, the stylus input is much, much faster than a thumb board.