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Reza
06-27-2003, 09:39 PM
I have trouble deciding between a Toshiba e755 and an iPAQ H5555. Could some of you guys help me? My previous PPC was an iPAQ H3870.

So both machines have a 400MHz PXA255 with a 200MHz bus + 802.11b + Pocket PC 2003 + 3.8” Transflective screen. The 5555 has 128MB RAM but the e755 comes with an extra CF flash port.

I don’t really care about Bluetooth (or a fingerprint reader). I need a very fast machine that can do gaming (proper MAME & SNES emulation) and want to connect to my home 802.11g network without a wireless card popping out of the PPC.

So has anyone bought a PPC2003 e755 yet? Is it faster than the 2210? Is there still an issue with the keys? Does it have a consumer IR port for remote control use? I hear the battery life sucks, but how about the high capacity battery?

Thanks for helping me decide! :D

jpjehu
06-27-2003, 10:15 PM
The e755 has been great for me. I had the 5455 and hated the absence of a CF slot, and love its prescence on the toshiba. I don't know what changes will come with 2003 (mine is still 2002), but I also like that the toshiba has a better graphics chip. It seems to play videos a little better, but I don't know if that would help the gaming aspect. The battery life seems to be plenty, and would be more than plenty with the high capacity. A big issue is price. The 5555 will probably sell at $650, while the toshiba is now only $500. With the remaining money you could purchase the high capacity battery, have a CF slot, and be at least comparable in any performance issue.

Chris Pi
06-27-2003, 10:27 PM
e755 good - cheaper
- jog dial
- cf slot
- 32 mb internal flash card
- you can buy an adapter that clicks onto the bottom that gives you some more ports and possibilities.

bad - support. It is unclear if they are going to support the e740 for a Mobile 2003 upgrade so you've got to wonder how they'll support the e750.
- gaming. I've read some people complain of button lag and some other button related stuff. Don't know if Mobile 2003 fixed this.
- less ram, 64mb as opposed to 128mb
- the screen is supposed to be great, but not as good as the ipaq.
- no bluetooth
- sparse software bundle

5555 good - more ram. 128 mb.
- blue tooth
- fingerprint scanner for security
- excellent screen
- extensive software bundle
- since the ipaq is the most entrenched platform it has more expansion options and it's easier to buy these things (I couldn't find the thumb keyboard for the e750 in Canada)

bad - expensive ($1000 Cnd., ouch)
- no cf slot (though you can get this with an expansion pack)
- no jog dial (though you can configure the record button for "scroll down")


*whew*, that's all I can think of right now. Anyway, I decided that the 5550 was the better deal and I've got one on order. The clincher for me was the support - MS has a new os for ppc's coming out next year that's supposed to be substantial and though support is never guaranteed I felt that the hp is more likely to offer it for the 5550 than Toshiba.

Enderet
06-27-2003, 11:41 PM
5555 because the Toshiba has button lag and that is the worst thing for gaming.

pROvIs
06-28-2003, 03:55 AM
i heard the e755 was not able to use multiple buttons at once either. that and the button lag did it for me. I had one of these ordered but thank God my deposit on my credit card hadn't cleared yet. But if you can get past the gaming issues, i saw one selling from JandR for about 460 with Windows Mobile 2003, much much cheaper then the hp.

The other issue for me was that the e755 was much smaller than the 5555 which makes a difference if you are carrying it around quite a bit.

The whole graphics card thing from every review ive read etc is overrated. First of all none of the graphics chips in PDA's are 3d yet so all 3d games are handled by the CPU. The ATi chip in the e755 seems really good and has the potential to kill everything but the driver support just isnt there. This might have improved with windows mobile 2003, however that coupled with the button issues made me weary over using it for a gaming solution, but what is my gameboy sp for anyway :-P.

The bottom line for me was i just couldn't justify spending 450 (let alone 650) for a PPC which performed slower(most of this is arguable as objective benchmarking for PPC's remains a challenge) than the 2215 which was 200 dollars less expensive (267 w/education discount) which even with a 802.11b card added is less expensive and smaller (only issue might be battery life with the 2215's 900ma battery as opposed to the Toshiba's 1000? maybe 1100?).

Tierran
06-28-2003, 03:58 AM
Don't get the e755. You'll be subjecting yourself to the possibility of the same support nightmare that the e740 users are subjected to. (details at http://www.petitiononline.com/e300e740 )

I hate to recommend an iPaq...but I think its a better idea ;)

jaja_75
06-28-2003, 11:40 AM
The iPAQ h5555 and the e755 don't have CIR.

Between h5555 and e755, I'm for the e755.
It has a lot of Input/Output interfaces : CF, SD (I/O), USB Client, USB Host, VGA (out).

Personally, I prefer the MiTAC 558. It has more I/O interfaces than the e755 :

CF and SD (I/O)
USB Client and USB Host
Built-in WiFi and built-in Bluetooth
IrDA and Consumer IR

and probably the only one PPC's 32 bit RAM

But, how about a launch data ?? :roll:
Come on, MiTAC !!!!

madbart
06-28-2003, 01:55 PM
What is the warranty support like for the Toshiba in the States & Europe?
In Australia if your unit breaks consider it gone for at least 4 weeks whilst it is sent overseas for reapirs.

At least the Ipaqs have 5 working days turn around on the repair with standard 12 months warranty & the option of next day exchange for an additional $200 AUD.

Jerry Raia
06-29-2003, 08:50 AM
Don't get the e755. You'll be subjecting yourself to the possibility of the same support nightmare that the e740 users are subjected to. (details at http://www.petitiononline.com/e300e740 )

I hate to recommend an iPaq...but I think its a better idea ;)

Yeah the support issue is a big deal, gotta go with iPAQ.

jpjehu
06-29-2003, 08:59 AM
If it comes down to support - buy the e755 via compusa and use the tap replacement program and support for any concerns.

Jerry Raia
06-29-2003, 09:07 AM
That wont help if you want to upgrade and they dont offer it though.

madbart
06-29-2003, 09:21 AM
jaja_75
Post subject:

The iPAQ h5555 and the e755 don't have CIR.

Where does it say this?
From reading HP FAQ it only states that NEVO will not be bundled

jaja_75
06-29-2003, 12:12 PM
HP FAQ :

"Universal remote control (CIR) :

Why was the Nevo application removed from the iPAQ Pocket PC h5100/ h5500 series products?

The iPAQ Pocket PC h5150 and h5550 products are targeted at our business customers that don't value the NEVO capability. HP believes the Nevo application to be of great value and is better suited with our iPAQ Pocket PC h2200 series."

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wpa/vac/genPage.do?vacpage=pocketpc/faq_h5550.vad&wf=WF05a&segment=sm&country=us&lang=en&fpoid=215348-64929-215381-314903-215381-322916

Universal remote control = Nevo
Universal remote control (CIR) = Nevo (CIR)

From this FAQ, we understand HP don't want Consumer stuff in their pro PPC.

Are they just removed the Consumer software stuff (Nevo) or also all the Consumer stuff (soft and hard) ?? :roll:

Are the h5450 and the h5550 are produced by the same or different Taiwanese PPC manufacturers ?

Reza
06-29-2003, 02:09 PM
Thanks for your help guys! That’s just another proof that this site rules! :D

I think I may get an e755 today from Circuit City and simply return it if I’m unhappy with it or if reviews and benchmarks of the H5550 reveal that it’s a better machine.

Circuit City have a free of charge “no questions asked” return policy :lol:, but I wonder if it’s going to be on a 14 or 30-day period (the try-out period is 14 days on computers but does that include Pocket PCs?). Anyone knows?

I compared the e755 side by side with an H2210 yesterday at a local CompUSA (they charge 15% for a refund so I didn’t buy it there). I couldn’t really tell which one was faster. Both were pretty snappy (although I managed to crash the e755! 8O). The H2210 screen was a little bit more vivid. The e755 could see an AirPort (Apple’s 802.11x) network and the Apple section was quite far away from the PDA section, so I guess that’s a good sign?

Anyway, as soon as I have it (if Circuit City actually do sell it), I’ll pass it through Spb benchmark and will do some SNES tests to check the button lag issue…

Reza
06-29-2003, 10:21 PM
So the 3 Circuit City stores in my area didn’t have any 2k3 e755 left in stock! :( (BTW Circuit City try-out period on Pocket PCs is 14 days)

I give up! :cry:

I have now decided to “attempt” living without a Pocket PC for 2 weeks until the H5550 is released: it’s scary how dependent we have become on these damn machines! :?

In the meantime I wouldn’t mind if someone with a 2k3 e755 could run Ppb benchmark though: I’m very curious to see how fast it is compared to the H2210… :wink:

Reza
07-04-2003, 12:54 PM
I finally bought an e755 and I think it's a really great device.

The very first benchmarks of the 5550 show that the Toshiba was the right choice: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14496 :D

Chris Pi
07-04-2003, 01:52 PM
I finally bought an e755 and I think it's a really great device.

The very first benchmarks of the 5550 show that the Toshiba was the right choice: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14496 :D

I've got an order for a 5550 but if those benchmarks are confirmed by other reviewers I might have to consider the e755.

Also, the guy who ran those numbers has now said that his 5550 device is not reporting the right specs - it lists the bus as 100mhz. He said it's an evaluation unit so maybe the finalized 5550 will end up being ok.