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John Hung
03-13-2003, 06:00 PM
I, like many other avid Pocket PC users, would like to use my Pocket PC as often as possible. The ability to carry information in a small and portable device that can be viewed quickly is one of the main reasons why I always carry my Pocket PC on my belt. However, it is not easy to view documents (Word, Excel, or other specially formatted documents) that contain tables or graphs without running the risk of altering the formatting after opening the files on your Pocket PC. Cerience’s RepliGo viewer is a great tool that enables you to view many kinds of documents directly on your Pocket PC without changing the original formatting.<br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_0.jpg border=”1”><!><br /><i>Pocket PCs are wonderful devices, and RepliGo document viewer makes them even better. You want to view PowerPoint, Word, Excel, Internet Explorer pages, or just about any other files on your Pocket PC but not worry about messing up the formatting? Your worries are over because RepliGo can view all the files described above and more. Read on to find out how!</i><br /><br /><span><b>Getting Started</b></span><br />Installing the software is easy and straightforward. RepliGo offers direct integration with the Microsoft Office programs and Internet Explorer, which makes document transfer a cynch. A total of 9.1MB HD space is required to install all the components. I installed the Pocket PC program on the secure digital card to preserve main memory. <br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_1.jpg border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 1: Installation Options</i><br /><br />The RepliGo desktop has many nice features, especially the amount of material to help you get started, such a user guide, product demo and sample files. I applaud Cerience’s effort in putting together the information to make this program easy to use for both novice and advanced users. <br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_2.jpg border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 2: RepliGo Desktop </i><br /><br /><span><b>Let the fun begin</b></span><br />One feature I try to look for in Pocket PC software is ease of use. I consider myself a pretty experienced user, but sometimes I still get frustrated by unintuitive and difficult-to-use software. By comparison, RepliGo is a joy to use. If you are using a program from Microsoft Office, RepliGo is already integrated and ready to go. When you want to view an open document on your Pocket PC, you simply click on the blue/orange right arrow button from the menu or toolbar to send the document to your PDA.<br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_3.jpg border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 3: The RepliGo Menu inside Microsoft Word</i><br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_4.jpg border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 4: The RepliGo Toolbar</i><br /><br />A popup window appears on your computer and you can choose a name for the file and location where you want to store the file. You can only save the file to your Pocket PC’s main memory, which can quickly fill up with all the files you will want to read with RepliGo. I hope in the next release we will be able to save converted files to storage cards. The conversion process took just a few seconds for each of the files I tested.<br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_5.jpg border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 5: Document conversion window</i><br /><br />Other non-Microsoft Office programs can also easily be converted by RepliGo. Simply choose to print and you will see RepliGo listed in the printer selection menu. <br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_6.jpg border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 6: RepliGo is available as a printer for non-Microsoft Office programs</i><br /><br />When you start RepliGo on your Pocket PC, you will see a folder view, similar to that of File Explorer, showing all of the RepliGo files. I converted several documents and saved them on my Pocket PC. However, the folder view does not tell me the file types, which can be confusing if my file names are not indicative of which program generated the file in the first place. RepliGo is designed to be an all-purpose document viewer, capable of converting files from many programs, and hopefully the folks at Cerience will add a tag indicating which program the file came from in their next release. RepliGo files are highly compressed without compromising the original look and feel of the documents. For example, the original spreadsheet file at 82K became a 16K RepliGo file, 91K Word file was compressed down to 15K, and a 185K PowerPoint file was reduced down to 79K.<br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_7.gif border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 7: RepliGo files on the Pocket PC</i><br /><br />To view a file, simply tap on the file and you will be taken to the ‘Whole’ page view.<br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_8.gif border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 8: Whole page view</i><br /><br />Triangle arrows next the page number (p1) take you to the next or previous page of the document. If you want to view a section of the page, use the stylus to marquee select an area of the document you wish to zoom in on for viewing.<br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_9.gif border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 9: Marquee selection result</i><br /><br />The section is now magnified to 43%. You can also tap on the hand symbol and use the stylus to move around the page.<br /><br />If you want to read the text, you can click on the Flowed tool (wiggly line).<br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_10.gif border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 10: Flowed view</i><br /><br />The text is now set to a readable text size, and you are ready to read the whole page. When you are done, simply tap on the Whole page view to see the whole page again. <br /><br />Shown below are three more examples of Office documents I converted to my Pocket PC as RepliGo files. <br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_11.gif border=”1”> <br /><i>Figure 11: Word document in landscape mode</i><br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_12.gif border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 12: Excel spreadsheet</i><br /><br /><img src=http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/johnh_mar03_rg_13.gif border=”1”><br /><i>Figure 13: Microsoft Project</i><br /> <br /><span><b>Gotchas</b></span><br />RepliGo is very easy to use and a great program for anyone who wants a way to view documents without risking altering its original format. However, I have four suggestions that I think will make this program even more useful.<br /><br /><li>Option to save converted files to storage cards<br /><li>Indicate RepliGo files’ original file types, ie: Word, Excel, etc. <br /><li>In Flowed view, the ability to see pictures along with text<br /><li>The ability to convert files already on the Pocket PC into viewable RepliGo files<span><b>Specifications</b></span><br />RepliGo will install on both desktop and Pocket PCs. On the desktop, any computer faster than 166 MHz running Windows 98SE and ActiveSync 3.1 or later is supported. 32MB of RAM (64MB for Windows 2000 or later) and 10MB of available hard disk space are needed to run the desktop version of RepliGo.<br /><br />Any Pocket PC devices (including Pocket PC Phone Edition) running Pocket PC or Pocket PC 2002 operating systems are both supported along with 500K of available free space. I installed it on my SD memory card and it runs just fine.<br /><br /><span><b>Where To Buy</b></span><br />The software can be <a href="http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=1&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=51208">downloaded from Handango</a> or purchased for the introductory price of $39.95 (normally $49.95) (affiliate link).<br /><br /><span><b>Conclusions</b></span><br />I have really enjoyed using RepliGo over the past couple of weeks, and I am certain it will become one of my software staples used on a daily basis. The program is suitable for everyone, novice and advanced users alike. At $39.95, it is a bit pricey, but for all the convenience this program brings, I highly recommend RepliGo.

spaceman
03-13-2003, 06:04 PM
Can you view the documents in landscape? Any printing capabilties? Use with a LCD projector CF Card?

Ed Hansberry
03-13-2003, 06:24 PM
I've been using it for a few months and my biggest issues are:

• No landscape mode
• No bookmark ability. I use this app to read long documents I print from the web or from PDF files. It is much better for that than Adobe Reader, but I have to make mental notes to remember where I left off if I read in different sittings
• I despise the Office integration. I finally turned all of that off. Took forever to find the macros, template modifications, toolbars, etc. I recommend you install WITHOUT office integration. Just use File|Print and select the Repligo printer.

You can print thought via IR and I suspect bluetooth.

It is a great product though, other than my personal gripes listed above. Highly recommend it.

captgoodhope
03-13-2003, 06:41 PM
• I despise the Office integration. I finally turned all of that off. Took forever to find the macros, template modifications, toolbars, etc. I recommend you install WITHOUT office integration. Just use File|Print and select the Repligo printer.

What's wrong with the Office integration?

dh
03-13-2003, 06:56 PM
• No landscape mode


Ed, looking at their website, it appears that Sony NX users get the benefit of landscape mode. I wonder why the PPC version does not have this.

Nice review by the way John.

Ed Hansberry
03-13-2003, 06:58 PM
• I despise the Office integration. I finally turned all of that off. Took forever to find the macros, template modifications, toolbars, etc. I recommend you install WITHOUT office integration. Just use File|Print and select the Repligo printer.

What's wrong with the Office integration?
Excel is OK. Word is a PITA, at least Word 2002/XP. I have my normal.doc template READ ONLY so it can't get infected and I don't inadvertently change my oh-so-perfect template. :wink:

So everytime I close Word with the Repligo button installed, it prompts me to save NORMAL.DOC. Uhg! SO I removed it. It is just printing to the Repligo printer. I don't need a macro installed in all of my apps to change my printer for me.

Janak Parekh
03-13-2003, 06:59 PM
I use this app to read long documents I print from the web or from PDF files.
Ed, do you just print the PDFs from Acrobat Reader through to RepliGo? And, if so, how well does it reflow 2-column content? I have a lot of paper reading to do, and Acrobat for PPC does the job OK, but it's rather slow.

--janak

snappy2515
03-13-2003, 07:06 PM
Hopefully this will send a message to Microsoft to ENHANCE POCKET WORD!!!!!!!! :x

Great review by the way

Janak Parekh
03-13-2003, 07:51 PM
Hopefully this will send a message to Microsoft to ENHANCE POCKET WORD!!!!!!!! :x
This is really a completely different beast than Pocket Word. RepliGo is for view-only content of any shape or size. Making it editable is a much harder proposition.

--janak

Ed Hansberry
03-13-2003, 08:06 PM
I use this app to read long documents I print from the web or from PDF files.
Ed, do you just print the PDFs from Acrobat Reader through to RepliGo? And, if so, how well does it reflow 2-column content? I have a lot of paper reading to do, and Acrobat for PPC does the job OK, but it's rather slow.

--janak
Ok, in that document that you sent, I couldn't tell any difference between the reflowed Adobe PDF document that the Adobe conversion does or that the Repligo conversion does. They both took your pages and cut them in half, putting the left column above the right. So imagine reading it that way.

The Adobe PDF file retained images in flowed mode and as John indicated, Repligo doesn't. To see the images, you have to go back to the normal view mode.

I'd be happy if Repligo replaced the image with a place holder that you could tap on and see the image.

That said, Repligo is approximately a bazillions times faster than Adobe Reader is, so unless you have tons of images, I'll use Repligo 11 times out of 10 to read PDF or any other files.

Janak Parekh
03-13-2003, 08:07 PM
Ok, in that document that you sent, I couldn't tell any difference between the reflowed Adobe PDF document that the Adobe conversion does or that the Repligo conversion does. They both took your pages and cut them in half, putting the left column above the right. So imagine reading it that way.
Ah, cool, that's exactly what I wanted. Thanks!

That said, Repligo is approximately a bazillions times faster than Adobe Reader is, so unless you have tons of images, I'll use Repligo 11 times out of 10 to read PDF or any other files.
That's my thinking as well. In my area, papers only rarely have images and they're easily "read around".

--janak

MLO
03-13-2003, 08:15 PM
I so wish I could afford this...sounds like an excellent program.

I currently use iSilo for Web documents, but it would be nice to have something that would convert other documents as well...

MLO

goirish!!
03-13-2003, 09:06 PM
Maybe I have missed something, but what does this program do, besides sync the file(s) to the PPC, that Adobe Distiller does not do?

I can take any file on my computer convert it to a PDF and move it to my PPC through Active sync.

I'm not knocking the program just wondering if I've missed something? And with Distiller I can highlight, add book marks, etc.

Again, not knocking it just asking questions. I didn't have time to read their entire site but enough to say that it seems a PDF would do much of the same things. :?:

goirish!!
03-13-2003, 09:08 PM
OOOPPSSSS just read Ed's post about speed. Is that the main selling point? The increased speed over Adobe? If that is the biggest thing then $40 is STEEP for me to just save a few sec out of my day.

Not to say this wouldn't be a big benefit to some people.

Ed Hansberry
03-13-2003, 09:14 PM
OOOPPSSSS just read Ed's post about speed. Is that the main selling point? The increased speed over Adobe? If that is the biggest thing then $40 is STEEP for me to just save a few sec out of my day.

Not to say this wouldn't be a big benefit to some people.
If you already have Adobe, then the only thing this gets you is speed, speed, the ability to print and speed. If you don't have Adobe, this gets you a whole lot and for far less than adobe.

Did I mention it was fast?

John Hung
03-13-2003, 09:25 PM
Several comments:

1. Thanks for the complements on the review.
2. Adobe Distiller - is it a free download that can convert a file into a PDF doc? I looked around the Adobe web site and only saw a Adobe Acrobat Distiller Server.
3. I do not have Acrobat Reader on my Pocket PC anymore, but if I remember correct, the program was rather large and ran slowly.

RepliGo may cost a pretty penny, but it is easy to use and suitable for users of any level of expertise.

Vger
03-13-2003, 09:26 PM
Can anyone comment on how this compares to ClearVue from Westtek? It would seem that the latest version of Clearvue can view native MS office applications without any file conversion. I believe that CearVue is also far less expensive and is compatible with VGA out cards.

Any thoughts?

Janak Parekh
03-13-2003, 09:27 PM
Did I mention it was fast?
I just tried it. It's faster than most e-book readers in flowed mode. 8O Time to plunk down yet more cash for my baby...

This piece of software, and a Pocket PC, may be indispensable for academic research. :)

--janak

billb
03-13-2003, 09:33 PM
so what everyone is really saying is that instead of having YET ANOTHER proprietary document format specific to PDAs (these proprietary doc formats really suck imvho) what we want is either:

1. Complete/Fast PDF rendering + landscape mode

and/or

2. full roundtripping of MS Office files without any ridiculous doc conversion (including landscape mode support)

I understand that both of these formats are also proprietary but they are what people are using and that's just the way it is so why not support them directly on the device?????

It seems to me that the Palm OS is way ahead of the PPC OS in this regard. How is that for irony?

-BJB

Ed Hansberry
03-13-2003, 09:46 PM
It seems to me that the Palm OS is way ahead of the PPC OS in this regard. How is that for irony?
My understanding of the Palm doc programs is they do a great job of roundtripping because they require conversion on the desktop and the data is reassembed into the main file on the desktop.

The new crop of on-device document readers/editors that reads native files is encountering the same data stripping that Pocket PC users have dealt with for years.

goirish!!
03-13-2003, 10:40 PM
Several comments:

1. Thanks for the complements on the review.
2. Adobe Distiller - is it a free download that can convert a file into a PDF doc? I looked around the Adobe web site and only saw a Adobe Acrobat Distiller Server.
3. I do not have Acrobat Reader on my Pocket PC anymore, but if I remember correct, the program was rather large and ran slowly.

RepliGo may cost a pretty penny, but it is easy to use and suitable for users of any level of expertise.

No it's not a free down load I just happen to have a copy that I use.

Adobe reader on the PPC is very slooooowwww!!

I just for Shi#@ and giggles I may download this just to play around with. I have a Pantone color chart that is so big Adobe will barely open it
and once it does you can forget about zooming in on anything!!

Brad Adrian
03-13-2003, 10:54 PM
...what does this program do, besides sync the file(s) to the PPC, that Adobe Distiller does not do?...
Speed is one thing, but the files are also much smaller. I took a PDF and converted it to RepliGO format and it was only 26% the size of the PDF.

davef
03-13-2003, 11:03 PM
• No landscape mode


Ed, looking at their website, it appears that Sony NX users get the benefit of landscape mode. I wonder why the PPC version does not have this.

Nice review by the way John.
It should only be a matter of time before we get landscape mode on the Pocket PC. It's coming... Just don't have a definite schedule to share yet.

davef
03-13-2003, 11:16 PM
I've been using it for a few months and my biggest issues are:

• No landscape mode
• No bookmark ability. I use this app to read long documents I print from the web or from PDF files. It is much better for that than Adobe Reader, but I have to make mental notes to remember where I left off if I read in different sittings
• I despise the Office integration. I finally turned all of that off. Took forever to find the macros, template modifications, toolbars, etc. I recommend you install WITHOUT office integration. Just use File|Print and select the Repligo printer.

You can print thought via IR and I suspect bluetooth.

It is a great product though, other than my personal gripes listed above. Highly recommend it.
• Landscape mode will happen in the not too distant future.
• Bookmarks are a highly requested feature and I envision us adding this feature to the product as well.
• RepliGo does function well without Office Integration. However, your mileage may vary a little in MS Word without it since RepliGo uses Office Integration to help it understand MS Word documents better. This allows RepliGo to more accurately reflow the document on your Pocket PC, amonst other things.

Great feedback. Please keep it coming.

Brad Adrian
03-14-2003, 12:31 AM
It should only be a matter of time before we get landscape mode on the Pocket PC...
Man, that will be GREAT! Thanks for taking the time to participate in this discussion.

Janak Parekh
03-14-2003, 12:42 AM
Question for everyone out there -- is there a way to directly send RepliGo documents to the storage card?

That, and the lack of a desktop viewer, are my only two cricisms so far. This is going to be a great product for me. Nice work, davef & co. :)

thanks,

--janak

davef
03-14-2003, 12:50 AM
Question for everyone out there -- is there a way to directly send RepliGo documents to the storage card?

That, and the lack of a desktop viewer, are my only two cricisms so far. This is going to be a great product for me. Nice work, davef & co. :)

thanks,

--janak
See the posts from jmoy at http://www.cerience.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17

There are a few Palm discussions in that thread as well, so watch out. :wink:

That's the second time today I've heard about a desktop viewer. Anybody else interested in this?

Janak Parekh
03-14-2003, 12:54 AM
See the posts from jmoy at http://www.cerience.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17
Ah, I should have realized ActiveSync was the limitation. No biggie, I just move the files manually once they're sync'ed over. Long-term, it would be neat to come up with a slicker way.

As for desktop viewer, it would enable RGOs to be treated as first-class cross-platform documents, much like PDFs. That is, I could have a document on my Pocket PC and email it to somebody, who could then open it without issues. Again, it's not critical, as I can also keep a PDF on hand, but it would be nice.

thanks for the quick feedback!

--janak

Brad Adrian
03-14-2003, 01:05 AM
Question for everyone out there -- is there a way to directly send RepliGo documents to the storage card?
Since it's sent to the device via ActiveSync, I doubt that there is a simple way to do it.

Ed Hansberry
03-14-2003, 02:33 AM
That's the second time today I've heard about a desktop viewer. Anybody else interested in this?
A quick viewer would be nice. I currently have 27 .RGO files on my machine and am not sure what is in some of them without looking it up on my Pocket PC. Text reflowing and those features wouldn't be important to me. A quick viewer then get back to focusing on new things for the Pocket PC, like landscape, bookmarks, etc. :D

BTW, minor bug. Are you aware that the folder list dropdown on the conversion utility is missing a scroll bar? You can move up and down with the arrow keys, but not the mouse.

John Hung
03-14-2003, 02:47 AM
I just learned a thing that I was not aware of when I wrote the review. I moved a file out of main memory and into storage card, and the file was no longer visible to RepliGo. I did not think too much about it and simply thought that it was the same limitation as when I transfer the file from my desktop. After reading Dave's replies and moved a few file from within RepliGo, I realized that a RGO file must reside within 'My Document' filder in order for RepliGo to find it.

Rob Alexander
03-14-2003, 03:23 AM
Several comments:

1. Thanks for the complements on the review.
2. Adobe Distiller - is it a free download that can convert a file into a PDF doc? I looked around the Adobe web site and only saw a Adobe Acrobat Distiller Server.
3. I do not have Acrobat Reader on my Pocket PC anymore, but if I remember correct, the program was rather large and ran slowly.

RepliGo may cost a pretty penny, but it is easy to use and suitable for users of any level of expertise.

There are several free .pdf writers available (check any large Windows shareware archive) and Acrobat Reader for PPC is free. I have to agree with some of the others here. I think that price is much too high when I can do the same thing for free. It may be faster, but it's not $40 faster.

Ed Hansberry
03-14-2003, 03:33 AM
It may be faster, but it's not $40 faster.
Just so you understand, we are not talking marginally faster. We are talking 2GHz Pentium 4 with 2GB of RAM vs 486 with 32MB of RAM faster. It may not be worth $40 for that speed, but if you are using Adobe a few times a week and get this app and use it for 3 days, you will eat beenie weenies and water for a month to save up for this app.

davef
03-14-2003, 04:40 AM
That's the second time today I've heard about a desktop viewer. Anybody else interested in this?
A quick viewer would be nice. I currently have 27 .RGO files on my machine and am not sure what is in some of them without looking it up on my Pocket PC. Text reflowing and those features wouldn't be important to me. A quick viewer then get back to focusing on new things for the Pocket PC, like landscape, bookmarks, etc. :D

BTW, minor bug. Are you aware that the folder list dropdown on the conversion utility is missing a scroll bar? You can move up and down with the arrow keys, but not the mouse.
Thanks Ed. I've logged your bug in our database.

davef
03-14-2003, 04:42 AM
I just learned a thing that I was not aware of when I wrote the review. I moved a file out of main memory and into storage card, and the file was no longer visible to RepliGo. I did not think too much about it and simply thought that it was the same limitation as when I transfer the file from my desktop. After reading Dave's replies and moved a few file from within RepliGo, I realized that a RGO file must reside within 'My Document' filder in order for RepliGo to find it.
John,
I'll put your comments in our bug database so we can look into it.

Thanks,

goirish!!
03-14-2003, 05:14 AM
It may be faster, but it's not $40 faster.
Just so you understand, we are not talking marginally faster. We are talking 2GHz Pentium 4 with 2GB of RAM vs 486 with 32MB of RAM faster. It may not be worth $40 for that speed, but if you are using Adobe a few times a week and get this app and use it for 3 days, you will eat beenie weenies and water for a month to save up for this app.

Ed it's obvious to me that you have no concept of speed......this program is MUUUCCCCHHHHH faster than you are describing!!! :crazyeyes:

I can not get over how fast it actually is when compared to Adobe!! It's just so damn expensive!! I'm not sure I can justify the cost to myself even for the speed. I have recently began transferring over job procedures to Adobe format so I can have them when necessary on the shop floor. This program is what I need but at what price? Even PI would be hard to justify at this cost.......well maybe not PI but you get my meaning.

Janak Parekh
03-14-2003, 05:19 AM
Ed it's obvious to me that you have no concept of speed......this program is MUUUCCCCHHHHH faster than you are describing!!! :crazyeyes:
Indeed. I read a lot of papers in PDF format and wasn't that thrilled about spending $$ for RepliGo, but tried it today, and purchased it 30 minutes later.

You basically get a reader that's faster than most eBook readers (even MobiPocket), but with any arbitrary content from your desktop. And the reflowing works as well as Acrobat's, AFAICT.

--janak

Ed Hansberry
03-14-2003, 05:23 AM
I have recently began transferring over job procedures to Adobe format so I can have them when necessary on the shop floor.
Oh, no question. Buy it. It's worth it just to not have to be embarrassed saying "hang on a second. Adobe is loading. Yup, there goes the 'initializing Reflow.api' command. Ok, hang on, it is opening the document, now it is drawing it on the screen. Ok, wait, moving to page 23...."

You'd already have opened Repligo, read the material and been about your business.

goirish!!
03-14-2003, 05:25 AM
I'm still on the fence with this program, but I see an immediate need for a "find or search" feature. I loaded the Pantone color chart and at 18 pages I must be able to search all 18 and locate a particular number/word without reading each page.

davef
03-14-2003, 05:27 AM
I'm still on the fence with this program, but I see an immediate need for a "find or search" feature. I loaded the Pantone color chart and at 18 pages I must be able to search all 18 and locate a particular number/word without reading each page.
It's on our todo list. :) Definitely a must have feature for longer documents.

goirish!!
03-14-2003, 05:27 AM
I have recently began transferring over job procedures to Adobe format so I can have them when necessary on the shop floor.
Oh, no question. Buy it. It's worth it just to not have to be embarrassed saying "hang on a second. Adobe is loading. Yup, there goes the 'initializing Reflow.api' command. Ok, hang on, it is opening the document, now it is drawing it on the screen. Ok, wait, moving to page 23...."

You'd already have opened Repligo, read the material and been about your business.

I'm actually ashamed to say I've already been in that position. How embarrassing is it to be pointing out someone is performing a job incorrectly and have to wait to give them the correct information or method? :oops:

Janak Parekh
03-14-2003, 05:39 AM
Dave,

What will the upgrade policy on RepliGo be?

thanks,

--janak

kneibert
03-14-2003, 05:58 AM
I'll add my two cents.

I trialed Repligo a few months ago, and mainly used it to archive confirmation order receipts from online vendors. However, I couldn't justify the $40 price tag just for that activity.

I've been following the current discussion about PDF vs. Reader apps vs Repligo with interest. I agree that Acrobat is too slow and cumbersome on the PPC, especially with lengthy docs. For non-Acrobat files, I've been using the free Reader conversion utility from Microsoft. When I come across something of interest that I want to save on the PPC for later reading, I copy it to Word and then convert to a .lit doc for the PPC. It's cumbersome, but it works - most of the time. Obviously, it doesn't work for exisitng PDF files.

I could see using Repligo to do this instead of Reader, but at a minimum it would need to support bookmarking and the ability to highlight text within the the doc on the PPC. Find/Search would also be a nice to have...

jmoy
03-14-2003, 06:46 AM
BTW, minor bug. Are you aware that the folder list dropdown on the conversion utility is missing a scroll bar? You can move up and down with the arrow keys, but not the mouse.
Yeah, it's been discussed in our forum: http://www.cerience.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=56#56 and we've fixed it here, but haven't put it out in a maintenance release yet. Coming soon.

dano2769
03-14-2003, 07:14 AM
This is a great program, I've used adobe and I have to agree its slow. I have been using Repligo for some time and have discovered a few things so I thought I would share. Once you make the intial activesync connection you can save the converted docs on your desktop. I will sometimes convert web pages for later use then connect to my shared folder via wifi and copy the doc over to my CF card. I have a my documents folder created on the CF card with an additional subfolder named Repligo copy the Repligo folder and paste it as a shortcut in the systems my documents this folder is now visiable when connected activesync so you can transfer all converted documents directly to your CF card. Sorry if this is a repeat of other info just sharing my experience.

dano2769
03-14-2003, 07:32 AM
As posted above I created the Repligo folder within the my documents folder on the CF card thus making it visable to the Repligo viewer now copy and paste the shortcut of the Repligo folder into the my documents system folder. Works the same as if you was working on a Word doc. over a network you don't want the orginal ruined so you copy a shortcut to your desktop any changes made to the shortcut will be saved on the orginal. Hope I helped and possable made some sense.

works for me

davef
03-14-2003, 01:42 PM
Dave,

What will the upgrade policy on RepliGo be?

thanks,

--janak
Minor revisions (like a v1.1) will be free to registered users. Major revisions (like v2.0) will carry a small charge. I don't have a dollar amount to supply. All I can say is that we will try to be fair. We will also provide a safety net for those that buy our product right before v2.0 comes out.

Ekkie Tepsupornchai
03-14-2003, 04:37 PM
A quick viewer would be nice. I currently have 27 .RGO files on my machine and am not sure what is in some of them without looking it up on my Pocket PC. Text reflowing and those features wouldn't be important to me. A quick viewer then get back to focusing on new things for the Pocket PC, like landscape, bookmarks, etc. :D

Geez, these RGO files add up quickly for me as well!! Not a knock on the program at all... it's definitely an indication of how useful I've found Repligo to be.

But with so many RGO files, I've gone back and started giving each file more descriptive names so that I have a better idea of what's contained.

goirish!!
03-15-2003, 03:08 AM
Dave,

What will the upgrade policy on RepliGo be?

thanks,

--janak
Minor revisions (like a v1.1) will be free to registered users. Major revisions (like v2.0) will carry a small charge. I don't have a dollar amount to supply. All I can say is that we will try to be fair. We will also provide a safety net for those that buy our product right before v2.0 comes out.

Although I can appreciate the work that goes into software development I feel compelled to ask, why the unusually high price? This software is at least 33% higher than the average program. Wouldn't you assume you would sell more at a slightly lower price.

goirish!!
03-15-2003, 03:11 AM
I am still using the trial at this time and am seeing a couple of small issues:

1: When moving from one page to the next I notice that the scroll bar does not reset to the top of the latest page opened. In other words if I am at the bottom of one page when I move the the next I find myself at the bottom of this one rather than the top.

2: Moving from page to page should be more like a page break. Not a matter of opening a new sheet.

Just an observation.

ctmagnus
03-15-2003, 05:55 AM
Did Acrobat Reader have that reflow button? I haven't used it for so long I can't remember. I recently upgraded to rom version 2.20 and I've been putting off installing it, especially because most pdfs (all pdfs prior to version 5) did not support reflow (or so I read/heard/experienced.) If I could scrape together $40USD, I'd have Repligo in a snap.

Ed Hansberry
03-15-2003, 06:20 AM
If it was tagged with Adobe Acrobat 5 or the desktop converter added tags to Acrobat 4 and lower files, the PPC reader can reflow. Otherwise, it can't.

John Hung
03-15-2003, 08:47 AM
A quick viewer would be nice. I currently have 27 .RGO files on my machine and am not sure what is in some of them without looking it up on my Pocket PC. Text reflowing and those features wouldn't be important to me. A quick viewer then get back to focusing on new things for the Pocket PC, like landscape, bookmarks, etc. :D

Geez, these RGO files add up quickly for me as well!! Not a knock on the program at all... it's definitely an indication of how useful I've found Repligo to be.

But with so many RGO files, I've gone back and started giving each file more descriptive names so that I have a better idea of what's contained.

As I said in the review, I wish the RepliGo directory has an additional column showing the source of the file. Putting files into different folders is a good idea, but I would want to set folders for the nature of the files (business or personal), not by file format (Excel or Word).

Ekkie Tepsupornchai
03-15-2003, 09:07 AM
As I said in the review, I wish the RepliGo directory has an additional column showing the source of the file. Putting files into different folders is a good idea, but I would want to set folders for the nature of the files (business or personal), not by file format (Excel or Word).
In my case, the files tend to be named after the files they were converted from, so I don't think that would help me too much, though it would be nice to have (at least to know the file type it was converted from).

Putting them in different folders would be nice if we were able to place them OUTSIDE of the My Documents folder. As EdH has alluded on a few occasions, my "My Documents" Folder is littered with too many folders (not created by me) as it is. I can't afford to create a whole new set.

Ed Hansberry
03-15-2003, 03:22 PM
Putting them in different folders would be nice if we were able to place them OUTSIDE of the My Documents folder. As EdH has alluded on a few occasions, my "My Documents" Folder is littered with too many folders (not created by me) as it is. I can't afford to create a whole new set.
Uhg! No more custom folders, please! :evil: