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Ed Hansberry
01-24-2003, 06:00 AM
<a href="http://www.penreader.com/PocketPC/Financial_Calculator.html">http://www.penreader.com/PocketPC/Financial_Calculator.html</a><br /><br />"In business, it's important to get the most for your money. That's why Advanced Financial Calculator based on Hewlett Packard 10BII functions is the smart choice for business and financial courses."<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2003/20030123-hp10calc.jpg" /><br /><br />• Over 100 built-in functions for business, finance, mathematics and statistics <br />• Performs algebraic data entry <i>(No RPN? :( )</i><br />• Intuitive onscreen keyboard <br />• Big buttons - you can use not only stylus but also your fingertips <br />• Great mix of statistic, business and math functions <br />• Suitable for finance, accounting, economics and business work<br />• $14.95 from <a href="http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=311&productId=52565">Handango</a>. <i>Affiliate link.</i> Runs on any Pocket PC.

szamot
01-24-2003, 07:53 AM
What's up with all these fancy calculators and no Reverse Polish Notation - I take offence, how am I supposed to and figure out what I would be if I was not Polish, err, that's right I'd be Canadian! :P

PJE
01-24-2003, 02:04 PM
What's up with all these fancy calculators and no Reverse Polish Notation - I take offence, how am I supposed to and figure out what I would be if I was not Polish, err, that's right I'd be Canadian! :P

Check out Pocket 12C (or Pocket 15C if you want a scientific calculator) from Lygea (http://www.lygea.com/). These are EXCELLENT replicas of the RPN HP 12C and 15C calculators - complete to the smallest detail (as far as I can see).

BTW, Stay clear of the Pocket HP-48GX on Handango. It's someone illegally selling the Emu48CE emulator!!!!!

My 2c

PJE

Jimmy Dodd
01-24-2003, 03:18 PM
I'm still using the same HP 41CV I picked up in 1982. I can't believe my calculator turned twenty last month! I'd love to find a software package to replace it on my PPC, but so far I haven't been that impressed with them. And yes, it has to use RPN! :lol:

Any suggestions?

PJE
01-24-2003, 03:39 PM
I'm still using the same HP 41CV I picked up in 1982. I can't believe my calculator turned twenty last month! I'd love to find a software package to replace it on my PPC, but so far I haven't been that impressed with them. And yes, it has to use RPN! :lol:

Any suggestions?

I too can only use RPN calculators - I've had a HP-42S since it came out, and a HP-48G for the last few years. I have yet to find the perfect Pocket PC calculator as yet, but give these a whirl.

Lygea Pocket 15C (http://www.lygea.com) This is a very good version of the 15C, but its functionality is limited compared to the more advance HP calculators.

CalcNow (http://www.freewareppc.com/calculator/calcnow.shtml) Nice fast RPN calculator with a clean look, but misses base conversion... although it is extendable so I may give it a whirl - If the author reads this can the display handle Hex numbers?

Calc98 (http://www.calculator.org/) Probably the most powerful native calculator I've used. UI is a bit clunky though... It would be nice to have finger pushable buttons without shrinking the function keys to the size of a grain of sand.

Emu48CE (http://pda.tucows.stop.hu/wince/preview/32498.html) Very powerful, but the speed and UI issues (as well as the size) have put me off. Your expriences may be better.

If anyone else knows of a good RPN calculator (with base conversion and logic functions), please let me know

PJE

Ed Hansberry
01-24-2003, 04:16 PM
Personally, I am an HP 17B-II man. I had the original 19B and hated the algebra and found the batteries (some goofy "N" cell) were too expensive and hard to find. Got a 17B-II as soon as it came out in the late 80's and have never looked back. RPN all the way! The tactile feel of HP's keys are 2nd to none. TI's will die after heavy usage in 2-3 years, though I admit I never tried a $50+ TI calc, but HP's $30 calcs have the same keys as the $200 calcs.

PJE
01-24-2003, 04:35 PM
Personally, I am an HP 17B-II man. I had the original 19B and hated the algebra and found the batteries (some goofy "N" cell) were too expensive and hard to find. Got a 17B-II as soon as it came out in the late 80's and have never looked back. RPN all the way! The tactile feel of HP's keys are 2nd to none. TI's will die after heavy usage in 2-3 years, though I admit I never tried a $50+ TI calc, but HP's $30 calcs have the same keys as the $200 calcs.

The HP-42S (which is my main day-to-day calculator) is basically the scientific version of the 17B-II. Why they don't make it any more is beyond me. I'm thinking of making a trip to Ebay to fine a spare in case mine breaks down (although at 15 years and still going strong it's likely to outlive me ;-)

I contacted Lygea to see if they were likely to be working on a more advanced RPN scientific calculator, but their response was not hopeful.

PJE

Regards,

PJE

Ed Hansberry
01-24-2003, 05:06 PM
Why they don't make it any more is beyond me.

Man, HP only has two scientific and two financial calculators (http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/hpdirect/shopping/scripts/home/store_access.jsp?template_type=storefronts&category=calculators&aoid=88) on their site. :cry: I remember when they had 5-10 of each, some over $300. I think the 48GX was that expensive.

eustts
01-24-2003, 05:58 PM
I wish a developer would create the 48g or newer on PPC. I would one less device to carry around. :D

Jason Dunn
01-24-2003, 08:06 PM
Wow. Calculator geeks. You guys make me look like a studly jock in comparison. :lol: :lol:

I KID! I KID! :lol:

Ed Hansberry
01-24-2003, 08:19 PM
Wow. Calculator geeks. You guys make me look like a studly jock in comparison. :lol: :lol:

I KID! I KID! :lol:

:bad-words:

craiglud
01-24-2003, 08:50 PM
I have used the following and have liked each one.

PocketBiz calc
Pocket 12c
PowerOne Finance

Of the three powerOne has the most features and you can create your own calculation templates. You can also buy a bundle that includes a desktop counterpart. It is also the most expensive at $60 and $100 for the bundle.

http://www.infinitysw.com/products/poweronefinance.html

PapaSmurfDan
01-24-2003, 09:27 PM
It is really sad that HP has stopped developing new calculators. I made the swtich in college from a TI to an HP and never looked back. I was a victim of the 3 year rule with my TI-85 (The LCD just died on me).

PJE, Thanks for those links, I was searching for some free RPN calcs but never spent much time looking for them. I have an HP 49, and my PPC can never replace having a real calc (as I can blindly type stuff into it by feel alone). However, having a full HP48/49 on a PPC can be a life saver. I am going to try Emu48CE and see if it works decently (if it does, I will have a mirror image of my calc on my PDA). However, I can get by with the 15C if i have to.

However what killed HP was two things. First, thier calc's never die and have allmost everything you need on them. Most people I know who have HP's have had thiers, on average, for at least 15 years and don't need to replace them. Second, their new flagship model, the 49g, wasn't a big enough step up and was very buggy (Yes, with the first 49's you can easily crash the OS on it. You can fix it buy flashing a new rom, only if you have a computer link cable). Its no fun during an exam having your calculator do a hard reset because of an OS bug. If HP pulled off a decent algebraic entry mode (getting TI users to switch) and didn't crash, maybe they would still be developing new calcs.

-Dan

Janak Parekh
01-24-2003, 10:25 PM
Wow. Calculator geeks. You guys make me look like a studly jock in comparison. :lol: :lol:
Wow. You actually told Ed, an accountant, that? :lol: Ed, I'm sure the very first toy you had when you were born was a HP calculator, right? (Not that I'm completely immune to this, mind you; I loved HP calculators as a kid... we had a LED-based unit which ruled (can't remember which model now)).

PapaSmurfDan, you forgot to mention that the margins on calculators is diminishing rapidly, and that was another reason to get out of that business. Long-term, we may very well see PDAs replace calculators for all but the pure computation tasks.

--janak