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Jason Dunn
01-17-2003, 04:03 PM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=311&platformId=2&productType=2&catalog=0&amp;sectionId=0&productId=52913' target='_blank'>http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...productId=52913</a><br /><br /></div>Wow! 8O I haven't tried this yet, but the author tells me this utility allows an Xscale processor to be scaled from 60 MHz up to 600 MHz. Wow! :D More on this later, but I'm really interested to see what you all think of this - download the trial now and check it out! Or buy it through our affiliate link. :wink: <br /><br /><img src="http://www.handango.com/include/pictures/94704/hackmaster.jpg" /><br /><br />"Pocket Hack Master is an advanced utility that allows you to alter (overclock or underclock) the speed of your XScale CPU. Hack Master supports speeds from 60 MHz to 600 MHz. Lowering the speed of your XScale CPU will add to your battery life. Or you can increase the speed if you need more power. Get detailed information on your device, system processes, threads, modules, system databases, battery and power."

powder2000
01-17-2003, 04:10 PM
"Requirements:ARM or XScale PocketPC device"

I'll try it on my e570 and share my experience.

Daimaou
01-17-2003, 04:13 PM
"Requirements:ARM or XScale PocketPC device"

I'll try it on my e570 and share my experience.

Yes but the Overclock will only work on Xscale CPU look at the SS

Anyway seem to have no difference on my 3970 even at 100 or 200, look the same or maybe because I was not reg ?

entropy1980
01-17-2003, 04:15 PM
I think you have to buy it to actually use it , I just bought it will et you guys know what happens....

Daimaou
01-17-2003, 04:17 PM
Yes please, if you toast your PDA let me know I won't buy it :wink:

Rirath
01-17-2003, 04:30 PM
Mmmm... 600mhz.... ::drool:: Can't wait to hear some results. The Axim has plenty of battery life to spare, I'd glady exchange some juice for even a little extra speed.

powder2000
01-17-2003, 04:36 PM
Unregistered doesn't seem to work when I clock down. BTW I would never used it to try and clock my e570 to 300 :wink: . Does have other info besides over/underclock function.

Andy Sjostrom
01-17-2003, 04:38 PM
The 206Mhz to 400Mhz gave us... not much. Wonder what 400Mhz to 600Mhz will give... I don't believe we'll see much, knowing what we know about busses and stuff! Let us know!

revolution.cx
01-17-2003, 04:46 PM
Just be careful with what speeds you select as you can easily put your device in a state where it has to be hard reset.

Daimaou
01-17-2003, 04:55 PM
could be nice that someone can write down a table of oll the correct power setting and of course the speed that we should reach.

Coz there isn't much info

suhit
01-17-2003, 05:04 PM
Does anyone know how hot a device gets on average when overclocked? I guess that that is the only thing keeping me overclocking my e740.

MooseMaster
01-17-2003, 05:12 PM
LCD frequency should stay at 27 (The L setting). If you increase this setting the SDRAM frequency will drop and you could risk damaging your screen.
M you'll want to keep on 2. If you lower it then it decimates your memory bus run speed.
N is the multiplier that directly affects clock speed. If you set M to 2 and N to 2 then you get 400MHz, if you set M to 3 and N to 1 then you get 300 MHz. if you set M to 3 and N to 2 then you get 600MHz.

The program tells you exactly what it does with every change of the settings. They're not implemented until you press the button that says "Change processor speed to so and so." XScales are rated to run at 1 GHz. I don't think 600MHz would harm them, only drain the battery faster. If you keep it running at 600MHz for a long time then you might possibly manage damaging your battery, but that would be a rare occassion.
By my calculations, 600MHz SHOULD manage an increase in FPS in PocketQuake of 1.55, meaning a score of 9.45 at 600MHz and 7.9FPS at 400MHz, 5.5FPS at 200MHz. If someone who purchased this piece of software would go to http://forums.pocketmatrix.com and traverse to the bottom where the PocketQuake I forum is located and provide a standard benchmark that would be very helpful.

Thank you,

entropy1980
01-17-2003, 05:16 PM
Ok after buying it and running VOBenchmark, clocking it to 600 MHZ seems to have slowed it?! The Floaitn gpoint has dropped from 12.54 to 6.31, and integer from 26.87 to 13.47.... so beats me !!! :?: :!:

mpattman
01-17-2003, 05:32 PM
looks like there are more details here :

http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69919

mpattman
01-17-2003, 05:34 PM
From the author:

"Thanks for your interest in Hack Master. The trial version of the product is not allowed to change the XScale frequency. You need to press the button saying "Change speed to..." in order to apply the new speed settings and this feature is disabled in the trial mode. Please note that although supported by the XScale chip, 600 MHz is nearly impossible to achieve without proper voltage and cooling. Downlocking is possible to save battery power.

Have a greaty day,
Anton Tomov"

mpattman
01-17-2003, 05:38 PM
Ok after buying it and running VOBenchmark, clocking it to 600 MHZ seems to have slowed it?! The Floaitn gpoint has dropped from 12.54 to 6.31, and integer from 26.87 to 13.47.... so beats me !!! :?: :!:

I am curious, does setting the speed back to 400 Mhz and turning "turbo mode" on make any difference ? does anyone know what turbo mode actually does ?

MooseMaster
01-17-2003, 05:47 PM
"Turbo" is just a memory bus speed multiplier. It's on on my iPaq H3955. It indirectly affects clock speed. See my post above.

GadgetMan
01-17-2003, 06:50 PM
You may also want to check the following thread at Brightand:

http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=fa57a555b0bca048ef19c6b4e18bbcfe&threadid=69921

Cheers,

vincentsiaw
01-17-2003, 08:29 PM
so how is it guys? should i buy it or not?

Gadgetguyinva
01-17-2003, 09:03 PM
I just bought it and the 300mhz setting (with turbo on) *feels* faster to me. Start menu animation, folders opening, etc nice & snappy. Watching a movie on Pocket MVP right now and I can't tell a diff between 300mhz and 400mhz. Who knows, it could be purely psychological.

I'm curious to see if anyone else who has bought it and done any benchmarks can comment on the diff between 300 and 400mhz. I'm especially interested in battery life between the various settings.

jet8810
01-17-2003, 10:24 PM
wow, I am anxious to try this software, but once again everybody remember: I understand that I accept all responsibility for the use of Pocket Hack Master to adjust the speed of my XScale processor. Any problems or damages caused by use of this product on my Pocket PC are my responsibility, and not that of the Pocket PC Thoughts team nor the developer. :lol:

Janak Parekh
01-17-2003, 10:28 PM
Nice try, jet8810. :lol:

--janak

jet8810
01-17-2003, 11:43 PM
lol...:).

Rirath
01-18-2003, 12:13 AM
Sadly is starting to sound like the 600mhz was thrown in there just to create buzz.

Sslixtis
01-18-2003, 01:28 AM
Sadly is starting to sound like the 600mhz was thrown in there just to create buzz.

My thoughts exactly.

Also I suppose it would be very much dependant on your chip, depending on what the built-in safety band is for it, which will vary from chip to chip because of manufacturing inconsistencies. I would think trying for 500Mhz would be much more achievable than 600Mhz. Not many companies are going to put a +50% speed margin into their chips. :roll:

Has anyone tried this at 500Mhz? Just a thought :wink:

nozy
01-18-2003, 03:22 AM
I tried to download the trial on my iPaq H3650, (which the ad says it is compatible with), it won't load. It says that it is not a valid WIN 32 application. Can anyone help?

Nozy :?:

freitasm
01-18-2003, 07:56 AM
You have to copy the .exe to your PPC, and execute there...

nozy
01-18-2003, 08:03 AM
Thanks a bunch, I'll try it again.

Nozy :D

sgyee
01-19-2003, 04:50 PM
I can say that this program can now do something that 400 Mhz XScale owners all want - true overclocking of the 400 Mhz XScale units.

Pocket Hack Master can now do true overclocking of the XScale processor to 472 Mhz. Version 1.40 (he's up to 1.45 now) can adjust the clocking speed to higher than the standard rating of 400 Mhz.

Dermot81
01-21-2003, 09:03 PM
Yeah not only that, I think somehow the bus bandwidth gets changed too, because I went from 13 fps to 26 fps on a divx clip being tested over in the PMVP forums.

That's too big an improvement, to be just from the extra 72mhz added.

seanturner
01-26-2003, 07:09 AM
Yeah not only that, I think somehow the bus bandwidth gets changed too, because I went from 13 fps to 26 fps on a divx clip being tested over in the PMVP forums.

That's too big an improvement, to be just from the extra 72mhz added.

Yes, it does increase the memory buss speed. That is the M multiplier if you use the custom settings. For more imformation about the multipliers, please read my review here: http://www.pdajunkie.net/hackmaster.htm

seanturner
01-26-2003, 07:10 AM
I can say that this program can now do something that 400 Mhz XScale owners all want - true overclocking of the 400 Mhz XScale units.

Pocket Hack Master can now do true overclocking of the XScale processor to 472 Mhz. Version 1.40 (he's up to 1.45 now) can adjust the clocking speed to higher than the standard rating of 400 Mhz.

Yes, he posts a new version every couple of days or so. I have version 1.58 now.