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Notonlybits
01-07-2003, 11:56 AM
Hi everybody.

This is my first post in this forum. I´m not newbie int this PPC world but sadly i must recognize that i´ve been out the ppc world too many time.
As far as i can´t find a buyer´s guide in this forum, i´ve chosen to post this topic here, but if a moderator thinks it must not be here, move it freely.

Now, i must make a suggest to my boss about the best PDA for our company. Today we have two PDA standards, the Ipaq 3970 and Palm m515.

One of the directors, who was a palm user asked me for a new Palm so i recommended him the Tungsten, but i also told him that ther is a PPC, the e740 that is almost as the same size and weight of the tungsten one. He also had an ipaq 3670 that never used becouse it was as a brick and the batterylife was too short.

I don´t know what is the best PPC pda, i just need to reccomend him a slim and a long battery life one. Palm Tungsten battery can stand almost a week without recharging, and it´s very weightless. The e740 battery only lasts 10 hours and the long life battery accesory i can´t find how much time last, but sure it´s weight must be high.

The PDA will be used for office apps and web surfing via BT. I have also take a look on the ipaq 54XX but it´s as big as its predecessors. I don´´t know about other PPC similar devices.

In this case, priece does not matter. I need a high end PDA, so i´ll like to make the best choose.

How can i can convince to the guy to choose a PPC device instead of the Palm Tungsten one?

Thnaks in advance

dh
01-07-2003, 12:34 PM
Do you need to use the wireless networking? As you know, the e740 has this built in so would be an advantage.
On the other hand, if you are using the PDA for road warrior employees, the TT with it's built in BT might be a better bet.
You mentioned you need to run Office documents andDocsToGo which is bundled with the TT has been proven to give better integration with Word and Excel than the pocket versions in PPC.
I'm not sure about your idea that the TT battery will last a week. I use a Palm Vx and that certainly will not last a full week with heavy use. I really think that with the color screen (especially if using BT a lot of the time) the TT will need to be charged at least every two days.
I must say, I do love the transflective screens on the Ipq and Dell Axim, I've looked at the e740 one and not so impressed.
Finally the price. I've noticed some good deals on the e740 and the TT at ~$500.00 seems overpriced.
If I were looking at a competitor for the TT today, I think I would prefer an Axim. It obviously does not have the built-in WiFi but with the twin slot configuaration, you have plenty of expansion options.

Vincent M Ferrari
01-07-2003, 05:04 PM
My current PDA of choice is the TT. I love mine and just wanted to clarify some things in the prior post:

1. Battery life is very good. With the bluetooth perpetually on and being used very regularly, I can go roughly 4 days (give or take a day) without charging if I really wanted to. The battery hardly moves.

2. I absolutely agree that the lack of WiFi is really a killer. I would have much more use for WiFi than bluetooth.

3. Portability is amazing. When closed, it is barely bigger than 3 floppy disks stacked. I've never seen a PPC that even comes close to this kind of portability, Toshibas included, although they are getting slimmer.

4. Finally price: It's way expensive. I see it as more of an investment, but $500 is steep for a Palm, but no Palm has ever matched it as far as features, so I guess it's a moot point.

Hope that helped.

vtfob2003
01-26-2003, 07:34 PM
E740

Vincent M Ferrari
01-26-2003, 07:37 PM
Forget the TT. I posted the reason for that decision on this forum under the topic of "Gave Up on Palm"

Ekkie Tepsupornchai
01-26-2003, 08:34 PM
How can i can convince to the guy to choose a PPC device instead of the Palm Tungsten one?
Sometimes you just have to accept that the Palm may be the better choice.

I've been using PPC for the past 2+ years and would never switch back (former PalmVx user), but if they're looking for a combination of small size and battery life and don't care for the extra features of PPC, then it would be difficult to dismiss a Palm.

Bloop
01-29-2003, 09:27 AM
I am not sure why your suggesting the e740 if they don’t want another brick. The e740 is about the same size as the 3670. In addition to this the battery life also is not too great on the e740. Also if you’re using the 802.11b on the e740 you battery life will like be half way gone in like an hour. But don’t be mistaken the e740 is a very nice PDA, for example it has the CF and SD slot which is very nice. The e740 has a 400MHz X-scale processor and 64mb of RAM which is a plus. Also it is very possible to make it blue tooth there is an SD card for like 150, it’s not really worth the money but it makes it possible

The TT on the other hand is very over priced. Theirs not much perks to it. Like all other palms it only has 16mb of RAM, so theirs a good chance that your going to need to get SD cards for each of the TT. Yea it’s small but its kind of annoying that you have to open it up to use the graffiti every time. Personally I feel that the win CE os is a lot easier to use, especially when it comes to inputting in data. Also I find that when you got to retail stores 90% of the TT that they have in stock have been returned, why they have been returned they wouldn’t tell me. Finally I personally thing they displays suck on the TT, they have a nice contrast but they look to dim for my eyes.

If money is not an issue I would try to get your companies hands on a iPaq 5450, yea it’s a brick, but it has both the 802.11b and the Bluetooth integrate in to it. In addition to that it has a very very nice screen. Like the e740 it has a 400MHz X-scale processor and 64mb of RAM. If you company uses cell phones on a GSM network they are able to put the SIM cards in the 5450 and use it as a phone, or surf the web. Another big thing with the 5450 like the other hp1910 its battery is removable. This brings up two huge plus’s if you run out of battery power simply pop in a spare battery. Also all lithium-polymer Rechargeable batteries eventually die, because every time you charge them they slowly lose their life, so if this happens all that is required is to get a new battery, which is like 50 bucks or so. If you got one that had an integrated battery like the TT or e740 on the other hand you would need to ship that PDA to the manufacture which they would hold for like 2 weeks and then send you a refurbished model of the PDA you sent them, which never a good thing. Finally another cool feature which is not really important, the HP 5450 has the Biometric thumb print thingy, it is kind of dumb because people are still going to steal you PDA and all they need to do is a hard rest to get rid of it, but I guess it does protect you files…

ux4484
01-29-2003, 03:15 PM
sounds like he should wait for a HiPaq 1915 :D

hollis_f
01-29-2003, 04:34 PM
Yup - the new BT enabled mini iPAQ sounds like a good bet.

I know I wouldn't be impressed if somebody made me have to learn how to use Graffitti if I'd got used to being able to write in English on a PPC.

bdeli
02-05-2003, 07:49 PM
For the records, Palm slashed the TT price to $399 - you can get one for $339 if you look around - imho - a great deal!

Bloop
02-05-2003, 08:36 PM
sounds like he should wait for a HiPaq 1915 :D

If I’m not mistaken the HP 1915 is only going to be for the UK, but theirs always the HP 2200 :wink:

Bosco
02-07-2003, 09:40 PM
TT is now at $399, a good price. I'd say go for the TT, but that's because I love Palm OS.

You mentioned you need Bluetooth and good Office compatibility. The TT is undoubtedly the best choice and can't be beat for those two tasks, IMHO.