iPAQ 1910 Now on HP's Web Site

[Jason Dunn]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/hpdirect/shopping/scripts/generic_store/generic_subcategory_view.jsp?' target='_blank'>http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/...egory_view.jsp?</a><br /><br /></div>The specs aren't a mystery any more, but HP has now added the 1910 to their Web site with a released date of "mid-December". The specs are a little underwhelming, but I really like the way it looks...<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/20665487_1_overview_300.gif" />

[alandashby]

Thought that I ought to let those of you who are interested that new ipaqs will be shiping from Hp at the end of next week to the retail stores, so they should be showing up within the next two or three. I would have thought they would have tried to get them out much sooner but I was talking to my Hp rep today and that was the news.

[Stone]

That new 1910 is absolutely amazing too! I saw it at Comdex. Even though it has the same screen as the 54xx, it looks much more sharp and clear for some reason. If it had a few more options, I would be getting one of those instead of the 54xx! :D

[heov]

That new 1910 is absolutely amazing too! I saw it at Comdex. Even though it has the same screen as the 54xx, it looks much more sharp and clear for some reason. If it had a few more options, I would be getting one of those instead of the 54xx! :D

well, isn't the 1910 3.5 inch instead of 3.8 inch. the pixel density is greater in the 1910, so that could be the reason for the sharper picture...

[jngold_me]

Anybody know if the 1910's body is metal or plastic?

Please HP, get to work on the 1950 (or whatever) with 400mhz, SDIO and FULL 64mb of Ram and 32mb of PPC rom!

[Ed Hansberry]

32mb of PPC rom!
May not be necessary....

Wait approximately 8.25 hrs from now. :wink:

[jngold_me]

Ok Ed, what are you keeping from us? :?

[kagayaki1]

Ed, what have you got up your sleeve? An NDA contract? Naw, couldn't be...

[MaximumPDA]

I'm not sure I like how they are marketing these as 64 megs of ram. In reality they are only about 32 to 48 useable if you install the PPC2K2 apps that are not included in ROM. On the plus side the hardware is SDIO capable, lets hope they upgrade the firmware to take advantage of it. I think the best feature for these is the slim design and would make a great stepping-stone for Palm users and people who need a good inexpensive PDA with some features to grow on while keeping a slim form factor.

--Bill

[st63z]

Hey THAT was already a breach of contract!

Where are the NDA police? Swarm, swarm!

[Ed Hansberry]

I'm not sure I like how they are marketing these as 64 megs of ram. In reality they are only about 32 to 48 useable if you install the PPC2K2 apps that are not included in ROM. On the plus side the hardware is SDIO capable, lets hope they upgrade the firmware to take advantage of it. I think the best feature for these is the slim design and would make a great stepping-stone for Palm users and people who need a good inexpensive PDA with some features to grow on while keeping a slim form factor.

--Bill

It is 64MB of RAM, http://h20022.www2.hp.com/busprod/CatAtAGlance/0,,type=64929%5Ecategory=,00.html?lsidebarLayId=491 shows how much is usable, but the purchasing page doesn't. :? And it isn't SDIO capable - http://h20022.www2.hp.com/busprod/pocketpc/faq_h1910/?lsidebarLayId=858#sdslot

[Timothy Rapson]

But as MaximumPDA wrote, it is not 64 meg usable.
MaximumPDA is right and Ed is slicing the bologna awfully thin again.

I find HPs approach to the RAM on this h1910 extremely cheap and think it will cost them a lot of sales. But, really, TextMaker is 6 meg for a full install and needs 3 meg to run. It is by far the biggest program available for PPC. Add any amount of software and I don't see how I would actually need any more than 32 meg and the 16 meg above that is all extra.

There is something that a lot of people forget. It seems like 32 meg is twice as much as 16, but that is only one way to put it. The way I see it, I have a 16 meg Ipaq (3135) with about 4 meg free most of the time. (Right now, I actually have TextMaker Beta installed on it. The install process choked the first time I tried, but I reset it and it installed. I can run TextMaker alone and still have a couple of meg free for open documents.) That 4 meg free is just barely enough to use the device for Word Processing and the other few things I did with it (it actually just sits on the shelf now, to buggy to depend on or put up with). But a 32 meg unit would have 8 times the free memory and a 48 meg 12 times what I need.

I would use any 32 to 64 meg device about the same way as any other. It is when you get to 128 meg with 64 meg flash that I could see my habits changing. With that amount I would see people keeping music in Ram, or doing WiFI in Flash ROM instead of adding a whole card. That is for December of next year.

Or this could all be an historical footnote in 8.25 hours. :wink:

[Ed Hansberry]

But as MaximumPDA wrote, it is not 64 meg usable.
MaximumPDA is right and Ed is slicing the bologna awfully thin again.

I am not slicing it thin. It has 64MB of RAM and as long as they disclose (which they don't seem to have done on the purchasing page) that only 46MB is user accessable, that is fine. Palm's Tungsten T has 16MB, but they disclose that 2MB is not available. It is just like when you buy a cheap PC that has 128MB of RAM but 32 is unavalable to you because that is what the video card uses. :roll:

[MaximumPDA]

Timothy Rapson explained my point about the 64 megs of ram issue that I have. I know HP's site says the unit is not SDIO and they are right, it isn’t...at the moment. The SDIO hardware is there. The SDIO capable chip was talked about at a large press luncheon at Comdex and they were not asking for that fact to be kept secret. However, they were very clear that there no was NO immediate plans to make the SDIO chip fully IO. It sounded like a function that could be turned on in a future firmware refresh. I was merely stating it would be nice if they activated it sooner rather than later. They may never do this on that model.

Don’t get me wrong, I LIKE this device and even recommended it to my Mother In-Law. I just wish they were a little more forthcoming with the RAM specs, it is not the same as a 64 meg Axiom.