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Jason Dunn
11-15-2002, 07:35 PM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/ipaq/5400/5400-1.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/ipaq...5400/5400-1.htm</a><br /><br /></div>After reading Dale's review of the iPAQ 5450, I have to admit I felt the stirrings of tech-lust deep in my soul. 8O Yes, it's expensive. But in looking at some of the details that Dale talked about, it's very clear that there are many little "touches" that HP added to the 5450 to make it stand out from other Pocket PCs. Some of the ones that caught my interest: hardware audio control, bass control, audio input via external microphone, vibrating alarm, new UI for Bluetooth, and USB charging. For this price I still think 128 MB of RAM would have been nice, but this is a very compelling device for high-end power users.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/H5450outOfBox_small.jpg" /><br /><br />"This beauty has Intel’s PXA250 (400MHz) processor and comes with 64MB RAM and 48MB ROM. It’s beautiful 64K color Transflective TFT screen is the brightest display available on any Pocket PC. The built-in SDIO card slot lets you add storage memory or the potential for I/O devices to the new iPAQ. There are a total of four integrated wireless features consisting of Bluetooth, 802.11 Wi-Fi, Infrared and Consumer Infrared functionality. Finally, they have added on a biometric thermal fingerprint reader for high level security. When you put in all these features within a form factor that still allows you to use all the existing iPAQ expansion pack jackets, you end up with the latest winner by HP for the business user that is bound to take the enterprise market in full stride."

van_mierlo
11-15-2002, 08:09 PM
:puppydogeyes:

My eyes are popping,

but so will my wallet

Great review dale

Paul P
11-15-2002, 08:13 PM
Great, I have to make another auction.....................

Awesome device

Great review

xbalance
11-15-2002, 08:15 PM
When I see this product I think of the Tubes song She's A Beauty.

But don't fall in love

mtillett
11-15-2002, 08:16 PM
Bye Bye 3765 :(

Hello 5450!! :D

I know whats on top of my christmas list!!

Merlion
11-15-2002, 08:23 PM
eCost's price for the iPaq H5450 just went up from $646.12 (price since last week) to $690.31. :(

Chronos
11-15-2002, 08:31 PM
I've been bitten WAY too many times by iPaqs in the past. I'll give them a few months to work out all the kinks, and with all the new hw and sw features and complexity I know there will be several. Also probably wait for X-scale optimizations too.

It is awesome looking and exciting- just the way I felt about my 3635 and 3835. I'll stick to the T-Mobile for now, and wait and see what HP does about QA.

Big Honkin' Deal
11-15-2002, 08:38 PM
Boy this machine looks great!! but I will stick with my 3970 for now.... I just ordered the new Compaq Tablet PC TC1000 and will play with that for a while.....

As soon as they ship it, in true Compaq fashion they keep slipping the shipping dates 8)


Frank
Bye Bye 3765 :(

Hello 5450!! :D

I know whats on top of my christmas list!!

don dre
11-15-2002, 08:48 PM
I don;t think I've ever seen a company miss shipping dates with such regularity. Still, I have a 3970 and am drooling. Still, 128megs RAM might have done it for me. I just have to wait for Toshiba's Wifi SD Card. I really like the finger print security. I might actually protect my data.

Kati Compton
11-15-2002, 08:51 PM
Some of the ones that caught my interest: hardware audio control, bass control, audio input via external microphone, vibrating alarm, new UI for Bluetooth, and USB charging. For this price I still think 128 MB of RAM would have been nice, but this is a very compelling device for high-end power users.

I know I don't really have a real reason to complain about Pocket PC's, given that I haven't even ordered one (yet)...

But it's really struck me as odd that apparently up until now none of them had a volume dial. (I won't even get into the "only 6 software settings" issue...). I mean, this isn't difficult technology...it was on my first walkman.

I'm glad to see that *someone* is putting one in, even if it's not enough to justify the price of the unit to me, at least. Personally, I really do think that PDAs should move towards providing better mp3 support, like by incorporating the features you've listed. It's not all that big of a jump, really. I like techy gadgets, but I don't want to carry a ton of them. Just 1-3 really cool ones.... ;)

Do the mp3 player programs for Pocket PC remap the jog dial (if present) as a volume wheel? I would see that as being a good idea.

Bob Anderson
11-15-2002, 09:03 PM
All I can say is WOW this exceeded any and all expectations I had.

I love the fact that an external microphone can be used... and being able to use the bluetooth headset profile has interesting possibilities.

Simply put: :werenotworthy:

I can't wait to get my hands on one! I can't wait to see the ones with CDMA1xRTT built in!! (I need to sell my Sierra Wireless Aircard 555)

Way to go Compaq...

Marcel_Proust
11-15-2002, 09:13 PM
yes. nice features. but what about battery life? build in cf card? i've been burnt by shiny ipaqs before. can anyone spell digitizer problems?
but very nice multiple wirless options.

uvahoos
11-15-2002, 09:51 PM
Do the mp3 player programs for Pocket PC remap the jog dial (if present) as a volume wheel? I would see that as being a good idea.

Don't worry, Windows Media Player (included) on the PocketPC allows you to map any of the player functions (volume, play, next song, etc.) to any of the hardware buttons on the device. I always use the up/down controls (similar to a jog dial) on my Jornada to skip songs because I can easily use those buttons with the cover closed.

Now you should have full confidence in PocketPC and you should buy one ASAP! :lol:

mhowie
11-15-2002, 10:09 PM
Appears a couple of the Jornada's strong points have been incorporated-- specifically the "bridge" battery and the replaceable batter.

Although appealling, I will stick with my 3970 and its CF card WiFi ability versus buying the 5450. I have the CF expanded battery sleeve, AC adapter for travel and car charger, so the need for the swappable battery just isn't there for me.

However, if one has a 3800 or below and is looking to upgrade...I think the time is right! For 3970 users, it appears the screen is the same, the RAM/ROM/processor specs are identical, etc., so upgrading might be questioned...unless, of course, money is no object!

Thanks,

aner
11-15-2002, 10:29 PM
Connecting to a bluetooth headset would be wonderful of course. But Dale states clearly that he could bond, but not use the link. On my Ipaq 3970 I can detect and bond to my ericsson HBH-20 headset, but not use it. So it remains to be seen if there will be a really functional bluetooth headset profile on the 5450. This functionality will only really start to matter when you make phone calls. Make no mistake: bluetooth headsets are for voice and will not reproduce music very well. (I have this from a discussion on firstloox.org. The pocket loox DOES support BT headsets)

bbarker
11-15-2002, 10:34 PM
"...When you put in all these features within a form factor that still allows you to use all the existing iPAQ expansion pack jackets, you end up with the latest winner by HP for the business user that is bound to take the enterprise market in full stride."
The features sound terrific, but a form factor that still uses iPaq expansion jackets is the fatal flaw. I'll have to wait for the right high-end model for me.
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Kati Compton
11-15-2002, 10:40 PM
Don't worry, Windows Media Player (included) on the PocketPC allows you to map any of the player functions (volume, play, next song, etc.) to any of the hardware buttons on the device. I always use the up/down controls (similar to a jog dial) on my Jornada to skip songs because I can easily use those buttons with the cover closed.

Now you should have full confidence in PocketPC and you should buy one ASAP! :lol:

What about withMP3? I've read that there's a lot of playlist weirdness with WMP, and I usually use playlists to listen to my music.

As for rushing out and buying a PocketPC... I'm waiting for the Dell, and preferably a couple reviews thereof, first. ;) Please no dust/creaks/etc!

psyfactor
11-15-2002, 10:41 PM
Appears a couple of the Jornada's strong points have been incorporated-- specifically the "bridge" battery and the replaceable battery.

It's true but this "bridge battery" won't last as long as the one found on Jornada and it's not user replaceable. Anyway, they could have done a little bit more by including a nice but cheap plastic flip cover :wink:

HP

psyfactor
11-15-2002, 10:46 PM
What about withMP3? I've read that there's a lot of playlist weirdness with WMP, and I usually use playlists to listen to my music.

withMP3 allows user to define to hardware buttons too. Personally, I use my Jornada's up/down buttons (jog dial) to control the volume. It works well. However, I don't know why the Record button can't be mapped using withMp3 when I can do it using WMP. Anyways, that's another topic.

HP

sharmahw1
11-15-2002, 11:06 PM
Hi there,

Does anybody know what happened to integrated GSM/GPRS module for HP 5450. Is HP offering that as an accessary or a 3rd party add on?? I am always looking for a 5450 type of PocketPC but with a Tri-band GSM module built in. HP announced one add on but it is gone from their web site...
anyone with special insights....
Regards,
Harsh

ThomasC22
11-15-2002, 11:33 PM
&lt;sigh> now I'm going to probably buy one...

Well, I still feel it's too expensive, but I really like both the Wireless and the vibrating battery (which I've always wanted).

Further, although I still don't think it's all that worthwhile of a feature, I can now see the advantage of a biometric scanner and wouldn't mind having one.

So, for now, I'll stick with my company provided Dell when it gets here, just to have used it, but once there's a CDMA version, I think I'm going back to iPaq

Jeff Rutledge
11-15-2002, 11:40 PM
Nuts! Now I want one again. I had convinced myself that I didn't need to upgrade. Then Dale has to go and gush about the durn thing.

Guess I'd better ask for cash for Xmas. :lol:

Jeff Rutledge
11-15-2002, 11:46 PM
I just ordered the new Compaq Tablet PC TC1000 and will play with that for a while.....

Let us know how you like it. I'm very interested in the TC1000. Microsoft is giving a few of us a demo next week on the Tablet PC and I'm hoping this is the unit they're bringing.

mookie123
11-16-2002, 12:09 AM
But it's really struck me as odd that apparently up until now none of them had a volume dial. (I won't even get into the "only 6 software settings" issue...). I mean, this isn't difficult technology...it was on my first walkman.

.....

Do the mp3 player programs for Pocket PC remap the jog dial (if present) as a volume wheel? I would see that as being a good idea.

actually, as you point out. It's not a straightforward. The button can't go directly controling the volume without telling the software/Operating system what it's doing. Otherwise the software and the hardware will be out of sync. Remember the early day of Windows? when you turn up a player volume but nothing comes out because the OS or hardware master control is turn at the lowest?

From the picture, it is not a volume wheel, but just a tapping switch to tell the OS to turn up/down the volume.

Unreal32
11-16-2002, 12:27 AM
When is the CDMA model coming out, and what will the model # be? Anyone?

Also, does anyone know if they have solved the issue with the iPaqs turning on at weird times and having issues with staying on and not powering off automatically at times?

ThomasC22
11-16-2002, 12:30 AM
When is the CDMA model coming out, and what will the model # be? Anyone?

Also, does anyone know if they have solved the issue with the iPaqs turning on at weird times and having issues with staying on and not powering off automatically at times?

Well, truthfully, we don't even know if there will be one other than a rumour published by infosync here:

http://www.infosync.no/show.php?id=2317

But no release data (or anything other than "there will be one") has been published.

Janak Parekh
11-16-2002, 04:59 AM
When is the CDMA model coming out, and what will the model # be? Anyone?
Yeah, this is torturing me. I wanted to switch back to Verizon, but there is no guarantee they'll carry it, so I'm probably going to bite the bullet and get the 5450... btw, I find it interesting that the 1xRTT version doesn't have the biometric scanner. Maybe they'll announce it when they announce the 5450? OTOH, considering their mess with the GPRS sleeve, I can't expect too much on the wireless front :(

Also, does anyone know if they have solved the issue with the iPaqs turning on at weird times and having issues with staying on and not powering off automatically at times?
There are two turning-on problems:
- At midnight or when a reminder fires - not a problem - "by design".
- A few minutes after you pull out of ActiveSync - easily fixable - go to Activesync on the PPC, go to the Settings, Server tab, and uncheck everything. Presto! Should be perfect. This is not an iPaq-specific problem.

--bdj

p.s. I love the fact that nearly everyone on this thread is "Wow. Maybe I really do have to get one even considering the $$." How different it is when you see all the little details :lol:

ThomasC22
11-16-2002, 07:15 AM
Yeah, this is torturing me. I wanted to switch back to Verizon, but there is no guarantee they'll carry it, so I'm probably going to bite the bullet and get the 5450... btw, I find it interesting that the 1xRTT version doesn't have the biometric scanner. Maybe they'll announce it when they announce the 5450? OTOH, considering their mess with the GPRS sleeve, I can't expect too much on the wireless front :(


You know, the more I think about it the more I think that I don't want a CDMA device, what I want is Sprint to start selling a Bluetooth phone. That way I can switch my cell. phone provider without having to switch my PDA (especially at $700)

Paul P
11-16-2002, 07:35 AM
looks like somebody jumped the gun over at Switzerland.....

http://www.compaq.ch/fr/products/windowsce/ipaqpocketpc/pocket_pc_h5450.htm

doesn't look like there much more information there however.

Daimaou
11-16-2002, 12:27 PM
Hi !

Can someone tell me if the CF+Battery Sleeve of the 39XX will work on this Unit ?

Thanks

Mark (NL)
11-16-2002, 02:47 PM
looks like somebody jumped the gun over at Switzerland.....

http://www.compaq.ch/fr/products/windowsce/ipaqpocketpc/pocket_pc_h5450.htm

doesn't look like there much more information there however.

and for the same info in German use:
http://www.compaq.ch/de/products/windowsce/ipaqpocketpc/pocket_pc_h5450.htm ;-)

ThomasC22
11-17-2002, 01:46 AM
Can someone tell my is the CF+Battery Sleeve of the 39XX will work on this Unit ?


OK, well &lt;steps out from underneath black cloud>, lets try to move on by starting with something simple here eh?

(If you didn't understand that last statement just ignore it you don't want to know)

We had an HP rep come out to try to sell us on the new iPaqs last week and I don't think it would be a violation of the NDA (since he told me this before I signed it) to say that, according to HP the 5450 is 100% sleeve compliant with past iPaqs.

Janak Parekh
11-17-2002, 04:23 AM
You know, the more I think about it the more I think that I don't want a CDMA device, what I want is Sprint to start selling a Bluetooth phone. That way I can switch my cell. phone provider without having to switch my PDA (especially at $700)
For the most part, I agree. Around here, Verizon has the best network bar none, but I am sticking with T-Mobile (and its spotty coverage on Long Island) because I can use my Bluetooth-enabled T68.

The one thing holding me back is seeing the beauty of Pocket PC Phone integration. It's really nice. On the other hand, holding an iPaq 5xxx unit up to my ear is not going to be nearly as nice as holding an HTC unit up to my ear, and you know there's always times when you don't want to (or have the time to) fumble with headsets--in those cases having a comfortable handset device is always nice. Plus the switching point you mentioned. :)

--bdj

ThomasC22
11-17-2002, 07:50 PM
Well, actually, it's funny you mention the PPCPhone Edition because I was actually considering (and still considering) getting an entirely different Cell. phone provider just for data at one point (based on the theory of I want to keep my Phone Number but sprint is really dropping the data ball as far as devices are concerned).

But who knows, if Sprint picks up the Samsung Smartphone2002 I could get an iPaq and be in the clear :D

Janak Parekh
11-17-2002, 08:36 PM
But who knows, if Sprint picks up the Samsung Smartphone2002 I could get an iPaq and be in the clear :D
... and http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?id=187 is promising, ain't it?

You had to remind me about Smartphone 2002. I guess that's a good thing. I wouldn't mind having a 5450 in one pocket and a Smartphone in the other... :D

--bdj

danielalvers
11-18-2002, 03:32 AM
Firstly, a great article from Dale. Secondly, has everyone missed the point that the 54xx series design is screaming PPC Phone Edition.

1. Bluetooth Headset Profile Support
2. Microphone is now in the bottom, speaker in the top
3. Volume level rocker
4. External Microphone input in the same port as the speakers

This thing is built as a killer PPC Phone Edition from the ground up.

Personally I can't wait for the GSM/GPRS to become available.

Janak Parekh
11-18-2002, 04:18 AM
This thing is built as a killer PPC Phone Edition from the ground up.
The one major problem with it as a phone is that it's not really contoured to be held up to an ear. I compared holding up my 3870 to my ear compared to the HTC unit, and let me tell you the latter wins hands-down. OTOH, with a Bluetooth headset the need to hold it to an ear may be sufficiently diminished.

Still, I'm afraid it'll take another 6-12 months for it to hit the market...

--bdj

danielalvers
11-18-2002, 04:27 AM
I agree totally about the whole 'holding it up to your ear' look. Perhaps even a little too geeky even for me :lol:

But with the capability to use a hands free kit with the Mic/Headphones port and Bluetooth headset support you should only have to hold it to your ear as a last resort, perhaps instead of fumbling around on your night stand for the headset at night.

Why would we be waiting so long for GSM support? In all the pictures I have seen with the battery removed there is a SIM slot in the back ready to take my mobile phone SIM.

As for the form factor I have to applaude HP for keeping backward compatibility with existing sleeves. I am sure that everyone will agree that you are not going to jot too many notes on a SmartPhone, the factor is just not suited.

Sticking with the PDA form factor, which I beieve is a workable size, and including as many remote headset/hands free options comes the closest to mixing both technologies together.

With a BT headset I can leave my iPAQ in my pocket and take calls. Perfect. :D

ThomasC22
11-18-2002, 04:30 AM
... and http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?id=187 is promising, ain't it?

You had to remind me about Smartphone 2002. I guess that's a good thing. I wouldn't mind having a 5450 in one pocket and a Smartphone in the other... :D


That's a Palm phone, don't tell me you're switching sides :)

Seriously, I don't think Sprint will have a Smartphone 2002 for a while since the FCC docs showed a Verizon logo on the phone which, to me, means that Verizon made some kind of deal with Verizon (also note here: http://www.thefeature.com/article.jsp?pageid=24609 where MS lists Verizon as a Smartphone2k2 supporter, but not sprint)

Janak Parekh
11-18-2002, 04:36 AM
That's a Palm phone, don't tell me you're switching sides :)
Oops :oops: I meant http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?id=186, which also agrees with your Verizon point. (I thought something was wrong, because I also had recalled the Verizon bit... personally, I'm happier with Verizon coverage in NYC than Sprint's anyway :))

Time to go get some sleep instead of posting on PPCThoughts.

--bdj

st63z
11-18-2002, 09:56 AM
the 54xx series design is screaming PPC Phone Edition.

1. Bluetooth Headset Profile Support


You know, never used to think so, but now I'm re-considering PPC Phone Edition. Am already carrying around iPAQ, T68i cellphone, and BlueSpoon BT headset (of which I have 2, expecting my 3rd one soon -- http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21163 ).

It might make sense to drop the discrete cellphone altogether...

Pony99CA
11-19-2002, 03:27 PM
Does anybody know what happened to integrated GSM/GPRS module for HP 5450. Is HP offering that as an accessary or a 3rd party add on??

It will probably be a different model in the 5400 series. If anybody said the 5450 would have wireless capability, it was probably just a rumor.

Steve

Merlion
11-19-2002, 06:32 PM
I agree with you.

Since the last few months, the rumors are that all the models of the 5400 series will have integrated BT & 1 will include Wi-Fi, another GPS, & another CDMA/1XRTT. Having GSM/GPRS is logical & I think they'll probably come up with a GSM model. But if the original poster's asking about GSM/GPRS modules as in GSM/GPRS sleeves & CF cards, then they do exist & they should work with the H5450.

Pony99CA
11-20-2002, 04:43 PM
Since the last few months, the rumors are that all the models of the 5400 series will have integrated BT & 1 will include Wi-Fi, another GPS, & another CDMA/1XRTT. Having GSM/GPRS is logical & I think they'll probably come up with a GSM model.
Did you really mean "GPS" or perhaps "GPRS"? I would believe GPRS, because I've never heard of a GPS iPAQ (although one of the Asian manufacturers -- Mitac? -- was supposedly making a Pocket PC with GPS).

I'd love an iPAQ with Bluetooth (not that I use it), WiFi and GPS, though. :-)

Steve

Janak Parekh
11-20-2002, 05:09 PM
Did you really mean "GPS" or perhaps "GPRS"? I would believe GPRS, because I've never heard of a GPS iPAQ (although one of the Asian manufacturers -- Mitac? -- was supposedly making a Pocket PC with GPS).
Definitely GPRS.

I'd love an iPAQ with Bluetooth (not that I use it), WiFi and GPS, though. :-)
Well, you can get the CF+ or PC+ sleeve and insert a GPS unit on top...

--bdj

Merlion
11-20-2002, 05:45 PM
Actually, I really meant GPS. Remember the pic of 3 H5400 series models that were circulating around the past couple of months? The first model with a nub for the antenna is the Wi-Fi model, the next one with a longer antenna is the GPS model, & the last one with the longest antenna is the 1XRTT model. The first one turned out to be accurate, don't about the other 2. :?

I've been searching for that pic to include it here but just couldn't find it. I remembered seeing it on Brighthand, PocketPCPassion, likely here, & some other websites but I think it originated from somewhere in Europe. Maybe someone could post that pic here? :)

Merlion
11-20-2002, 06:10 PM
The H5450's FAQ (http://pandi.itrc.hp.com/busprod/pocketpc/faq_h5450/?lsidebarLayId=859) at HP is quite informative.
For those interested, the last part (http://pandi.itrc.hp.com/busprod/pocketpc/faq_h5450/?lsidebarLayId=859#misc) of it states:


Will this work with the wireless pack w/ GSM/GPRS?
Currently, the Wireless Pack with GSM/GPRS will not work with the h5400 series.

Janak Parekh
11-20-2002, 06:16 PM
Actually, I really meant GPS. Remember the pic of 3 H5400 series models that were circulating around the past couple of months? The first model with a nub for the antenna is the Wi-Fi model, the next one with a longer antenna is the GPS model, & the last one with the longest antenna is the 1XRTT model. The first one turned out to be accurate, don't about the other 2. :?
No, the second one was a GSM/GPRS model, not a GPS model. A GPS model would have had a much larger and rounder antenna, not a cellular-style one.

I've been searching for that pic to include it here but just couldn't find it. I remembered seeing it on Brighthand, PocketPCPassion, likely here, & some other websites but I think it originated from somewhere in Europe. Maybe someone could post that pic here? :)
http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/2317.html

--bdj

Merlion
11-20-2002, 06:42 PM
Actually, I really meant GPS. Remember the pic of 3 H5400 series models that were circulating around the past couple of months? The first model with a nub for the antenna is the Wi-Fi model, the next one with a longer antenna is the GPS model, & the last one with the longest antenna is the 1XRTT model. The first one turned out to be accurate, don't about the other 2. :?
No, the second one was a GSM/GPRS model, not a GPS model. A GPS model would have had a much larger and rounder antenna, not a cellular-style one.

I've been searching for that pic to include it here but just couldn't find it. I remembered seeing it on Brighthand, PocketPCPassion, likely here, & some other websites but I think it originated from somewhere in Europe. Maybe someone could post that pic here? :)
http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/2317.html

--bdj

That looked like the pic I was referring to.:) According to that Infosync article though, each will have either "GPS", "WLAN", or "GSM/GPRS", & maybe a CDMA/1XRTT model for the US. The pic I saw was labelled Wi-Fi, GPS, & 1XRTT for the 3 models, in that order. I was involved in the discussions & posters were complaining about the antennae.

Incidentally, for those interested in using GSM/GPRS with the H5450, Audiovox has a tri-band GSM/GPRS CF card & a quick search on the Net yielded this webpage (http://www.widget.co.uk/asp/product.asp?recorprod=1&product=118&cat=58&ph=&keywords=&recor=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=), you could search further if interested. Don't know how workable or available it is though. :?

Janak Parekh
11-20-2002, 06:54 PM
That looked like the pic I was referring to.:) According to that Infosync article though, each will have either "GPS", "WLAN", or "GSM/GPRS", & maybe a CDMA/1XRTT model for the US. The pic I saw was labelled Wi-Fi, GPS, & 1XRTT for the 3 models, in that order. I was involved in the discussions & posters were complaining about the antennae.
Hmm.. good points.. mea culpa :oops:

However, I still think the one in the pic is the GPRS one, because that would be one crappy GPS antenna.

--bdj

Merlion
11-20-2002, 07:28 PM
Actually, we don't know for a fact which one is which except that the 1st one's the Wi-Fi one & that there's likely a built-in GPS one. Info can get easily mixed-up for unofficial products with no definitive info. You might still be right. :) I don't know anything about GPS antennae, I haven't .. ahem .. seen one.:oops: Those pics were taken quite a while ago so if HP's engineers were doing their job, those antennae really needed to be cropped or be integrated into the body of the units.

Pony99CA
11-22-2002, 03:39 PM
I'd love an iPAQ with Bluetooth (not that I use it), WiFi and GPS, though. :-)
Well, you can get the CF+ or PC+ sleeve and insert a GPS unit on top...

Actually, I don't need to do that. I have Pocket CoPilot 3.0 with the NavMan sleeve. That's one reason I plan to buy iPAQs as long as they support sleeves.

However, having GPS in the unit itself would allow me to use another sleeve (like my dual PCMCIA sleeve) at the same time as GPS.

Steve

Big Honkin' Deal
12-07-2002, 09:50 AM
Well, I've had the Compaq TC1000 for over 10 days now and I have to say that so far it exceeds my expectations....

This has totally replaced the PPC for me (right now):-)

Built in Wifi is nice when you have the battery life to to go with it. I am getting over 4 hours of use out of one charge, that's more than with any other Notebook I own.

I have my Socket CF Bluetooth card connected to my Ericsson T68 for a great GPRS mobile connection on the road.

The CF Teletype GPS is hooked up to the Full version (entire Map CD) of MS Streets & Trips and I can view a big chunk of Map at any given time:-)

All installed software runs very nicely:

Adobe Photoshop
Macromedia Homesite
Quicken
MS SQL server Tools
MS Streets & Trips
E-Wallet
List Pro
Terminal Server Client
Microsoft Office
MS Reader
Audible Player
Plus all the usual assorted utilities.

I can use Pen input in every one of them.

And here's the kicker.... Speech recognition software that works!! I am dictating this post into the built in microphone!!


I am looking for an Ipaq style Screen in upcoming versions, otherwise I'm pretty much stoked about the thing. In case you can't tell :roll:


I just ordered the new Compaq Tablet PC TC1000 and will play with that for a while.....

Let us know how you like it. I'm very interested in the TC1000. Microsoft is giving a few of us a demo next week on the Tablet PC and I'm hoping this is the unit they're bringing.