Finally! Avantgo gives us what we've been asking for!

[Ed Hansberry]

<a href="https://ami.avantgo.com/channels/buy8.html">https://ami.avantgo.com/channels/buy8.html</a><br /><br />For $14.95 per year, you can load up to 8MB of Avantgo data on your Pocket PC. The current free version has a 2MB limit. This is also an introductory price - it will be $19.95 normally. I think this is the model that will actually work rather than charging thousands of dollars to sites. You must have an account to see the link above since it starts the purchase process for your account.<br /><br />Now, I would buy this yesterday if I could figure out why my Avantgo channels are constantly asking me to go online. It has gotten so annoying I have quit launching it. <img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" />

[JMountford]

Had Avantgo Wouldn't travel. Have Mazingo will travel. Nuff Said.

[Wes Salmon]

I don't know, I personally had close to 4MB of AvantGo data on my Pocket PC (two accounts) and it was so un-godly slow that I stopped using it all together and opted for a custom list of Mobile Favorites synced every morning.

I can't imagine how slow 8MB of AvantGo data would be.

[Ed Hansberry]

Had Avantgo Wouldn't travel. Have Mazingo will travel. Nuff Said.
Isn't Mazingo $7/mo for custom channels though? Mazingo has gone so far with multimedia I don't think Avantgo and Mazingo are necessiarly direct comparisons.

[pt]

on the site it says "if you would like to take advantage of extra channel capacity to add more content and applications..."

um, i can't add applications, or anything besides text and pretty much one image format. so they should really define application, cause' application usally means more than what avantgo supports.

ideally, support for files would be great. ebooks, music, exes, flash, themes, all that.

i'll pay pretty much anything for that.

or i can install mazingo, but i'd like to see avantgo support that.

cheers,
pt

[PPCRules]

... I think this is the model that will actually work rather than charging thousands of dollars to sites.
But they are still charging the sites thousands of dollars, right? Double-dipping. Mazingo has to get their money from only one end. I can't see Avantgo not charging the sites until a lot of people abandon it for alternatives.

Actually, I think their model has a place. I have always had AvantGo work well for me. But I am also glad there are alternatives which do work pretty good, which do other things better.

[marlof]

I don't know, I personally had close to 4MB of AvantGo data on my Pocket PC (two accounts) and it was so un-godly slow that I stopped using it all together and opted for a custom list of Mobile Favorites synced every morning. I can't imagine how slow 8MB of AvantGo data would be.

You still have to show me how that Mobile Favorites of yours have worked, and kept on working. In all my Pocket PC using years, I've never been able to get that to work in a stable manner.

[Ed Hansberry]

... I think this is the model that will actually work rather than charging thousands of dollars to sites.
But they are still charging the sites thousands of dollars, right? Double-dipping. Mazingo has to get their money from only one end. I can't see Avantgo not charging the sites until a lot of people abandon it for alternatives.
My understanding is they backed waaaaaaaay back from that policy. They still charge biggies like Bloomberg, CNET, Wall Street Journal, etc. but not enthusiast sites.

pt - on applications - I think they consider their mapquest type links an app. :) I would like to see more of what you listed as well, but then again, that is what Mazingo is for.

[Wes Salmon]

You still have to show me how that Mobile Favorites of yours have worked, and kept on working. In all my Pocket PC using years, I've never been able to get that to work in a stable manner.

I guess I've been lucky since mobile favorites have been pretty stable for me. The only problem I recently encountered was trying to sync the same favorites between two machines on the same device. Now *that* blew it up real nice. :)

What is the typical error you get when trying to use/sync mobile favorites?

[JMountford]

Marlof Bregonje wrote:
You still have to show me how that Mobile Favorites of yours have worked, and kept on working. In all my Pocket PC using years, I've never been able to get that to work in a stable manner.

I have never had a problem with mobile favorites ever.
Ed Hansberry Posted: JMountford wrote:
Had Avantgo Wouldn't travel. Have Mazingo will travel. Nuff Said.

Isn't Mazingo $7/mo for custom channels though? Mazingo has gone so far with multimedia I don't think Avantgo and Mazingo are necessiarly direct comparisons.

I signed up way long ago with Mazingo. I get everything for free.

[Ed Hansberry]

I signed up way long ago with Mazingo. I get everything for free.
I did too but somehow that info got lost. I uninstalled it frustrated with the coinduit sync. Pretty intrusive popping the app up IMHO.

[briansturdivant]

THey were first and that's great. Then came Mazingo with multimedia channels, ability to sync to cf card, etc. Avantgo needs to either compete directly or find another niche. Being able to sync more info is great but without being able to do it on a storage card, it's not that useful. I use Avantgo only for channels that I want to sync to my device like local news. Since Avantgo doesn't support multimedia, thier pages don't take up much room. While that's been thier drawback since Mazingo was introduced, I think it can be their selling point, especially to individual users as opposed to enterprise. THat way I can read my news even when I leave my cf card with all my radio broadcasts and video, in the card reader by mistake. I use Mazingo for those Multimedia tv and radio that I need to sync to cf card due to space issues. Both Avantgo and Mazingo have thier strengths.

[st63z]

You can tell the Mazingo conduit to not pop up, if that's what you're asking? I use both, I may also sign up for the premium AvantGo if it's not too slooow... ($15/yr is definitely impulse buy)

BTW, the CNet News.com Mazingo channel seems to have stopped updating since July 30th (Bill confirmed that they may have discontinued it), but someone on Brighthand told me it's still updating just fine on AvantGo. Why would CNet refuse payment from Mazingo (especially since it's a premium channel) but wants to continue paying AvantGo :D I didn't even know CNet could distinguish access from either service...

[ojlittle]

THey were first and that's great. Then came Mazingo with multimedia channels, ability to sync to cf card, etc. Avantgo needs to either compete directly or find another niche. Being able to sync more info is great but without being able to do it on a storage card, it's not that useful.

You can use Tweaks 2k2 to put Avantgo data on a storage card. Works great for me. It's only $5 USD also.

[jsjxyz]

8MB is nothing...
The only thing that Avantgo was better than Mazingo is its control over Custom Channel which we can opt for not including pictures and size limit.
Can anyone inform me whether this sevice allow us to fully use the custom channle again?

[Jason Dunn]

I guess I've been lucky since mobile favorites have been pretty stable for me.

Lucky? No, you secret some sort of pheremone that makes the Pocket PC behave - I've never had Mobile Favorites work in a stable fashion for me in 2+ years. They're simply satanic. :twisted:

[pt]

pt - on applications - I think they consider their mapquest type links an app. :) I would like to see more of what you listed as well, but then again, that is what Mazingo is for.

wow, i wish i was able to call every web page that gets a request an application.

mazingo is cool, avantgo is built in, if they supported just a couple file types that would so rock...that said, most of the clients that i'm talking to now have mazingo on their radar, so it might not matter.

i would be great for mazingo to publish some rough subsriber #'s, that way i could sell it easier, i need to mail those folks, maybe this will remind me.

cheers,
pt

[thundercat33]

It seems as if all of the "good stuff" on Mazingo is premium. Is this true? If so, do you all feel it's worth the subscription? Thx.

[Paul P]

I subcribe to WSJ online and was wondering if there is a way to get all of the day's articles on Avantgo? Or if that can be done using other means, short of them being mobile favorites. Thx

[Wes Salmon]

Mazingo is great ... for getting a hold of real mobile URL's for my Mobile Favorites ... muhuhahahaha. ;)

Seriously though, I've installed Mazingo a number of times and was just not impressed with the speed of both the sync and rendering. I guess I should have known improvements were in order when a new version came out every few weeks for about 6 months.

[pschultz]

I have been using Mazingo for awhile now. I like it; however the one thing I hate is that the conduit always pop's up after Mazingo is done syncing. How do I set it so the conduit stops popping up?

[JMountford]

[quote]thundercat33 Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 12:11 pm Post subject: Mazingo - Is everything worthwhile premium?

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It seems as if all of the "good stuff" on Mazingo is premium. Is this true? If so, do you all feel it's worth the subscription? Thx.
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Mazingo's Premium content is very worth wile. My only complaint is that they do a lot of teasers, like the first chapter of an E Book or something similar.

[Brad Adrian]

I subcribe to WSJ online and was wondering if there is a way to get all of the day's articles on Avantgo? Or if that can be done using other means, short of them being mobile favorites. Thx

Well, you can subscribe to the Audible version of the WSJ and listen to the articles every day. Audible's system can be a bit unstable at times, though.

[Underwater Mike]

I subcribe to WSJ online and was wondering if there is a way to get all of the day's articles on Avantgo? Or if that can be done using other means, short of them being mobile favorites. Thx

Paul,

I'm a longtime WSJ online subscriber, and I've NEVER been able to get the story text onto either my Palm or (now) iPAQ, although Avantgo used to sync your portfolio if you had one set up. Don't know if it still does that.

I totally abandoned AG for Mazingo about four months ago. Mazingo was working great except for the last few weeks: Now, without changing anything -- either my setup or my subscriptions -- it's slowed WAAAAAY down, regardless of whether I sync to the cradle or to a CF reader. My syncs, which formerly ran about 10 min., now take close to an hour. No video or audio, just text. It's so bad that I rarely sync any more, especially since I can't figure out how to set up an automatic (scheduled) sync at certain times of the day.

[Don't Panic!]

I have been using Mazingo for awhile now. I like it; however the one thing I hate is that the conduit always pop's up after Mazingo is done syncing. How do I set it so the conduit stops popping up?Instead of syncing using the desktop icon go to Mazingo and sync through the MY channels link. You get a small box showing progress and you only get a pop-up message if something goes wrong with the sync process . Also from the desktop icon choose Files>Settings and uncheck the Pop-up Mazingo when device connected box. I get the felling you might be talking about the way it pops-up on your Pocket PC. If that's the case syncing to a folder on your PC and tranfering to your device from there or syncing to a storage card reader will solve that.

HTH

Don't Panic!
Bobby

[Don't Panic!]

I subcribe to WSJ online and was wondering if there is a way to get all of the day's articles on Avantgo? Or if that can be done using other means, short of them being mobile favorites. Thx

Paul,

I'm a longtime WSJ online subscriber, and I've NEVER been able to get the story text onto either my Palm or (now) iPAQ, although Avantgo used to sync your portfolio if you had one set up. Don't know if it still does that.

I totally abandoned AG for Mazingo about four months ago. Mazingo was working great except for the last few weeks: Now, without changing anything -- either my setup or my subscriptions -- it's slowed WAAAAAY down, regardless of whether I sync to the cradle or to a CF reader. My syncs, which formerly ran about 10 min., now take close to an hour. No video or audio, just text. It's so bad that I rarely sync any more, especially since I can't figure out how to set up an automatic (scheduled) sync at certain times of the day.You use the task scheduler on your PC to setup a scheduled sync.

Is pocket pc life one of the channels you sync? I noticed that almost everything on that site appears to be transfered to your Pocket PC even though it's supposed to be just the mobile channel. I found articles that were not accessible from the channel in the Mazingo folder on my CF card. I deleted it from my list and things sped up quite a bit. Maybe there are more channels out there like that that are slowing you down?

Don't Panic!
Bobby

[jwf]

The fatal flaw with Mazingo IMHO is that you can't schedule channels to update like you can on AvantGo (once a day etc.). So any large multimedia channels sync every time the device is placed in the cradle. IS there any way around this?

JF

[jwf]

Another little tip that I found useful when I was using Mazingo (I'm using iSilo/iSiloWeb now) was that you don't actually need the Mazingo client installed on the PPC. Just make sure uncompressed copying is enabled in the desktop app and open Mazingo.htm from within PIE.

iSilo is much better IMO, though it doesn't support ClearType yet, it 'remembers' your last read position in each 'channel', and also enables you to 'page' through a 'channel' in much the same way as you'd read a newspaper. Recommended.

[Marc Zimmermann]

I uninstalled it frustrated with the coinduit sync. Pretty intrusive popping the app up IMHO.
Yup, same here. I'll give it another shot as soon as they have a native ActiveSync provider.

[Jason Dunn]

Yup, same here. I'll give it another shot as soon as they have a native ActiveSync provider.

You'll never try it again then - there's no advantage to having a native ActiveSync provider.

[scouro]

For me it is too little too late. I have been using Mazingo ever since Jason put the article up on the site.

And at that time there was a free lifetime subscription for awhile.

Mazino is rock solid now and just getting better. :D

Ill keep using the 2mb Avantgo service, If I need it.

[Jonathon Watkins]

I have been using Mazingo ever since Jason put the article up on the site.
What article was that? Do you have a reference to it?