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Jason Dunn
05-25-2006, 04:00 PM
<img src="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/images/clonedvdmobile-001-small.gif" /><br /><br /><b>Product Category:</b> Software<br /><b>Manufacturer:</b> Slysoft<br /><b>Where to Buy:</b> <a href="http://www.slysoft.com/?aid=50312">CloneDVD Mobile site</a> [Affiliate]<br /><b>Price:</b> $39 USD ($59 USD for CloneDVD Mobile + AnyDVD bundle)<br /><b>System Requirements:</b> IBM-compatible PC with a minimum 500 MHz Pentium-class microprocessor and 64 MB RAM. Windows 95/98/98SE/ME/2000/XP, 2 MB hard-disk space.<br /><br /><b>Pros:</b><li>Intuitive interface making it easy to use;<br /><li>Frequent updates to add new portable player profiles;<br /><li>Lifetime updates.<b>Cons:</b><li>Only converts DVDs, not video files on your hard drive;<li>No ability to select video output type;<br /><li>Poor software update mechanism.<b>Summary:</b><br />CloneDVD Mobile is a highly useful application that's easy to use, powerful, and extremely fast. It does what it does well - taking a DVD and giving you a video file that will play on your portable media player - but it has some limitations that you should be aware of before you purchase.<br /><br />Read on for the full review!<!><br /><PAGEBREAK><br /><b><span>The Dark Art of DVD Ripping</span></b><br />Ripping and encoding a DVD for use in another format has always been a dark art. I first experimented with the techniques when I wanted to watch DVDs that I owned on my Pocket PC back in 2001. It was like voodoo – first you needed a tool to break the DeCSS encryption on commercial DVDs and rip the video and audio files from the DVD. Then you'd typically need to mix the audio and video streams together into a single AVI file, and finally take that AVI file and transcode it to a re-sized MPEG or WMV file (this was before DivX was popular). This process usually involved no less than three or four different programs, usually freeware applications created by well-intentioned programmers that seemed to have no concept of user interface design.<br /><br />The programs were hard to use, took long step by step tutorials to explain, and the error rate of something going wrong was always high – I often ended up with videos that had the wrong aspect ratio, were cropped wrong, had poor quality audio, or were far too compressed for good quality. In short, it was an ugly experience.<br /><br /><b><span>Things Got Better</span></b><br />Thankfully, things have changed and in the past year we've seen a variety of programs that do most of the above in one fell swoop (decryption being the notable exception), much to my delight. One of these tools is <a href="http://www.slysoft.com/?aid=50312">CloneDVD Mobile</a>. Like most of the tools in this category, CloneDVD Mobile doesn't crack DVD encryption, so if you want to put a few episodes of <a href="http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/originals/the_shield/main.html">The Shield</a> (great show!) onto your Pocket PC for viewing, you'll need to first use a tool to remove the DVD encryption. By far the best tool for this is <a href="http://www.slysoft.com/?aid=50312">AnyDVD</a>, which I've <a href="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,9818">reviewed separately</a>.<br /><br />So what does <a href="http://www.slysoft.com/?aid=50312">CloneDVD Mobile</a> do? In short it, it accepts video from DVDs and encodes the video to match the specifications of various portable video playback devices. That sounds simple, but it's surprisingly difficult to do properly. The list is constantly growing, but at the time of this writing CloneDVD Mobile supports the Sony PSP, Apple iPod Video, iAudio X5, Epson P-2000/P-4000, a variety of Nokia/Motorola/Samsung phones, Zen Vision and Zen Vision:M, and Windows Mobile Smartphones. It can also convert to DivX for playback on your PC if you simply want to rip a DVD for watching on your laptop. It's worth noting that CloneDVD Mobile does in-place encoding, unlike some other products that first copy the entire DVD to your hard drive. That method is time-consuming and also requires 4-6 GB of storage space. Slysoft's approach is much smarter.<br /><br /><b><span>Using CloneDVD Mobile</span></b><br />Using the program is simple: you put in the DVD, and walk through the step by step wizard. If you've ever done the manual method, this program will seem like it's pure magic. The <a href="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/images/clonedvdmobile-001.gif">first step</a> is when you select the type of device that the video will be optimized for. Clicking Next takes you to <a href="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/images/clonedvdmobile-002.gif">step two</a>, where you point the application at your DVD and the VIDEO_TS folder - it would be nice if the application was smart enough to see the inserted DVD and find the video folder automatically, but it's not a major hassle. What it will do automatically, however, is select the longest video file - you don't have to mess with merging multiple VOB files. It will also allow you to <a href="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/images/clonedvdmobile-003.gif">preview the video file</a>, in the case of DVDs with multiple small video files (TV shows for instance). You can also trim the video file if you only want a segment. A nice improvement here would be the ability to see individual chapters and tag which ones you wanted.<br /><br />Next, you're <a href="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/images/clonedvdmobile-003.gif">taken to a screen</a> where you can select the audio track and subtitles. Since it's unlikely that you'll need Dolby six channel audio on your portable media player, you'd pick Dolby two channel audio. I normally skip subtitles, but they might be useful to people who are into foreign films.<br /><br />The final step in setting up the project is where you see a summary of the audio and video input settings, and <a href="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/images/clonedvdmobile-005.gif">specify the output settings</a>. Full-resolution NTSC (North American) DVDs are 720 x 480 in resolution. CloneDVD will automatically crop the video, reducing the resolution, and give you resolution choices appropriate for the device you selected in the first step. For instance, with my Zen Vision:M player I'd want to use 320 x 180 resolution is watching on the device screen, or the next step up (likely 640 x 360) if I was going to connect my player to a TV set and watch it there.<br /><br />There's a video quality slider, and this is where I think CloneDVD Mobile runs into trouble - the default is 23, but what does that mean? There's no display of bit rate, and bit rate is what I understand. You can adjust the quality upwards/downwards, and the estimated file output size will change, but there's no way to understand what the quality number means without a lot of practice and experiments. I'd much rather see an option here for showing the bit rate of the video encoding. In fact, it's somewhat illogical that this option is even given because most players support a specific bit rate setting in addition to resolution, so it should have a drop-down menu for the supported player profile bit rates. Also on this screen is a check-box for de-interlacing the video, which is a must-have if you're watching the video file on anything other than a TV set. You can specify the location to store the ripped video file, and the label to give it. After that, a click on "Go" and the process starts. Easy, right?<br /><PAGEBREAK><br /><b><span>Grab a Cup of Coffee - but Not a Big One</span></b><br />Transcoding video is one of the most system intensive things you can ask of your computer. It will bring the most powerful system to its knees - but improvements have been made to speed up the process in 2006, and things are expected to get even better as we start to see CPUs and GPUs that will accelerate video encoding. Ripping a 2 hour and 25 minute DVD to a 320 x 240 quality 23 file on my laptop, powered by an Intel Pentium M CPU running at 1.86 Ghz, took a mere 42 minutes. That’s almost 4x realtime speed, which is an impressive feat. The resolution and quality you set have a significant impact on the speed of the encoding, as does the CPU. I'm unsure if CloneDVD mobile is able to tap into both cores if you're fortunate enough to have a dual core CPU (either Intel or AMD).<br /><br />While your machine is chugging away at the rip and transcode, you can <a href="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/images/clonedvdmobile-006.gif">view a snapshot of the progress</a> to ensure everything looks ok, or look at <a href="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/images/clonedvdmobile-007.gif">the summary page</a>. Once the process is completed, it will make a really obnoxious sound, which thankfully you can change in the preferences. There's also an option to turn the PC off after transcoding if that's your cup of tea.<br /><br /><b><span>Useful and Powerful But I Want More!</span></b><br />CloneDVD Mobile sells for $39 USD, and is worth every penny if you want to save yourself time and hassles. There's a <a href="http://www.slysoft.com/?aid=50312">21 day trial available</a> if you want to take it for a spin first. <br /><br />What I really want to see is CloneDVD Mobile evolve into something that would accept video files off a hard drive - WMV files, VOB files, DVR-MS (Media Center Edition 2005 TV show files). Give me the ability to feed it all the content I have, whether it's on a DVD or not. I'd also like to see it offer more output options - my Zen Vision:M can play DivX and WMV files, so give me the option to pick which one I want. This may seem like a big change in the application, but if Slysoft wants to keep CloneDVD Mobile competitive, they need to keep up to the other applications that are offering these features. So while I might need to use other applications to do this, I always come back to CloneDVD Mobile when I need to rip a DVD and put it on my portable media player - and I can't give it any higher praise than to say that I use it regularly.<br /><br /><i>Jason Dunn owns and operates <a href="http://www.thoughtsmedia.com">Thoughts Media Inc.</a>, a company dedicated to creating the best in online communities. He enjoys mobile devices, digital media content creation/editing, and pretty much all technology. He lives in Calgary, Alberta, Canada with his lovely wife, his sometimes obedient dog, and a whole bunch of DVDs that he wants to rip.</i>

jeffd
05-25-2006, 05:54 PM
Sounds like the user friendly dvd converter everyones been wanting, hopefully an update will ATLEAST accept any video files that windows has a codec for decoding for.

Btw divx was long popular before 2001 and pocket pc. ;)

Filip Norrgard
05-26-2006, 07:44 AM
Sounds like a good application, but I would have liked to see a bit more screenshots... but that might not be easily done when the app is transcoding though. :)

Jason Dunn
05-26-2006, 04:29 PM
I would have liked to see a bit more screenshots.

Hmm - I took screenshots of almost every single screen in the application, I just linked them in the text rather than making them inline because they're much bigger than our 400 pixel limit. Did you click on all the (image) links? :-)

Filip Norrgard
05-30-2006, 06:51 AM
Did you click on all the (image) links? :-)
Uhh.... I think I need new glasses, 'cause I didn't see the links... :oops: :morning:

Jason Dunn
05-30-2006, 06:53 AM
Uhh.... I think I need new glasses, 'cause I didn't see the links... :oops: :morning:

No problem. Maybe I should have made them bold. :-)