Cingular Offers Microsoft Direct Push Technology for the Cingular 2125

[Jerry Raia]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060613/nytu118.html?.v=56' target='_blank'>http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060613/nytu118.html?.v=56</a><br /><br /></div><i>"Cingular Wireless will offer its business customers access to corporate e-mail via Direct Push Technology, a feature of Microsoft® Windows Mobile® 5.0 with the Messaging and Security Feature Pack (MSFP) upgrade, beginning on June 19, 2006. The solution initially will be available on two of the hottest wireless devices in the market today: the Cingular 8100 series Pocket PC and Cingular 2125 Smartphone. Direct Push Technology delivers an enhanced mobile experience to organizations that use Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 by pushing updates to e-mail, calendar items, contacts and tasks as they arrive directly from the Exchange Server to the devices."</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/images/Temporale-20050112-Cingular.gif" alt="User submitted image" title="User submitted image"/><br /><br />Here it comes finally! For those of you foaming at the mouth for Direct Push, the thing Moto left out of the Q, it may finally be here along with MSFP. It will also be available for the 8125 as well. The story talks mainly of corporate customers and new rate plans for this. I'm not sure how that translates as far as just getting the new ROM (or update if that's what it is). I suspect we will all be able to access it as the article references <a href="http://www.cingular.com/microsoft">this link </a>which won't be active until the June 19th.

[raulr]

Moto Q may have left it out, but so did just about every other manufacturer. It's being released as ROM updates for most WM5 phones. In a couple of months, the Q will likely have it's ROM update available. Not sure why everyone has made a big deal about it on the Q since most of the other WM5 devices launched that way as well.

Plus, Moto appears to initially be tageting Pro-sumers, not necessarily business users. Most people aren't running exchange servers out of their homes to even use AKU2. (Because your running this site, you might, but the average user using this for personal use and not business won't.)

[Jerry Raia]

Good points, still no reason to wait. Why not have it there when the device is released? Especially since it should be a Blackberry killer and the software has long been available.

[Pete Paxton]

So where's the update for the SDA/MDA?

[Rocco Augusto]

if there was one thing i remembered from back when i sold for tmobile, its that they take longer than cingular to get things done :)

expect it next year ;)

[raulr]

Good points, still no reason to wait. Why not have it there when the device is released? Especially since it should be a Blackberry killer and the software has long been available.

Probably because of stability issues and they'd have to reflash the entire stock of Q's that they were building for inventory at Verizon. Remember, most of the manufacturers launched without AKU2 and A2DP support. I'm sure it's not simply a choice of enabling AKU2 or not. Since most manufactures launched without it, I'm assuming there are implementation issues which will be worked out in a ROM update as other manufacturers have done.

Moto at least got the A2DP in there as it's being marketed more towards the consumer right now.

[Mike Temporale]

I'm sure it's not simply a choice of enabling AKU2 or not. Since most manufactures launched without it, I'm assuming there are implementation issues which will be worked out in a ROM update as other manufacturers have done.

Don't forget, most other manufacturers also launched their devices 4-6 months ago. ;) The StarTrek (imate SmartFlip) is due shortly and is expected to have AKU2 already on it.

I think Moto just got too behind and couldn't afford to take this extra step. I expect we'll see the update released in the next month. Verizon knows that the business customer wants that, and they are going to want to take full advantage of their 6 month exclusive. So it's coming - soon. At least that's my thoughts.

[mbranscum]

(QUOTE FROM ORIGINAL ARTICLE)
Microsoft Direct Push Technology will be available through Cingular's B2B sales organization starting on June 19. For the Cingular 8100 Series Pocket PC, the Cingular Microsoft Direct Push Technology data plan is $44.99 with a qualifying voice plan for unlimited Internet and e-mail access. For the Cingular 2125 Smartphone, the data plan is $29.99 with a qualifying voice plan for unlimited Internet and e-mail access. Both plans include access to specialized tier 1 and 2 support.
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Why would I want to pay Cingular $44.99 or $29.99 for a push plan when I already have it working on both my 2125 and 8125 for nothing???

Am I missing something here!!!???

EDIT: OK...I'm paying $19.99 for MediaNet Unlimited right now, so if that includes use of an exchange server, I guess it's not that bad. I would still want to have a choice to do the push mail through another source if I wanted to though.

[Mike Temporale]

I would still want to have a choice to do the push mail through another source if I wanted to though.

I don't think there is anyway for them to restrict what Exchange server you connect to. That would be silly. I can't see any enterprise customer going for that. Part of the whole appeal of Microsoft's Direct Push is the ability to use it with any Exchange server and that there is no carrier involvement required.

[mbranscum]

I would still want to have a choice to do the push mail through another source if I wanted to though.

I don't think there is anyway for them to restrict what Exchange server you connect to. That would be silly. I can't see any enterprise customer going for that. Part of the whole appeal of Microsoft's Direct Push is the ability to use it with any Exchange server and that there is no carrier involvement required.

Then why the extra charge? Are they saying they're gonna charge extra each month if you simply have the feature on the phone? Why would someone pay $29.99 for this when MediaNet Unlimited is $10/month cheaper?

[Mike Temporale]

Then why the extra charge? Are they saying they're gonna charge extra each month if you simply have the feature on the phone? Why would someone pay $29.99 for this when MediaNet Unlimited is $10/month cheaper?

Not sure. We'll have to find us a Cingular expert that might be able to shed some light on this pricing. Now, where could we find someone like that... ;)

[Jerry Raia]

Then why the extra charge? Are they saying they're gonna charge extra each month if you simply have the feature on the phone? Why would someone pay $29.99 for this when MediaNet Unlimited is $10/month cheaper?

Not sure. We'll have to find us a Cingular expert that might be able to shed some light on this pricing. Now, where could we find someone like that... ;)

Checking under the rug, none here at my place. 8)

[Kris Kumar]

Then why the extra charge? Are they saying they're gonna charge extra each month if you simply have the feature on the phone? Why would someone pay $29.99 for this when MediaNet Unlimited is $10/month cheaper?

Not sure. We'll have to find us a Cingular expert that might be able to shed some light on this pricing. Now, where could we find someone like that... ;)

Checking under the rug, none here at my place. 8)

Definitely not over here... :)

[Kris Kumar]

I have a feeling that new customers signing up on June 19th are going to get that charge for Internet access. I don't think they want to detect Exchange access and restrict to the expensive plan. It has to be for the new customers. The thing that makes me think that way is that the press release says - "Cingular customers that already have deployed Cingular 8100 Series or Cingular 2125 devices can download the MSFP software update for free from www.cingular.com/microsoft starting on June 19." If I can download the update, how come I can't use it. :?

[Qzic]

I don't know if it matters or not, but I've been using Direct Push Email for the last 4-5 months on Cingular with my SP5 on the $19 MediaNet unlimited plan. Works great - except for the ocasional missed call that gets routed directly to voicemail because the phone is in the middle of syncing email.

[mbranscum]

I don't know if it matters or not, but I've been using Direct Push Email for the last 4-5 months on Cingular with my SP5 on the $19 MediaNet unlimited plan. Works great - except for the ocasional missed call that gets routed directly to voicemail because the phone is in the middle of syncing email.

Yeah...I've been using the same rom on my 2125.

[brianchris]

My opinion (and its just that, my opinion......I'm not affiliated with Cingular in any way) is that that is the new cost of an unlimited data plan to account for more data traffic on a device that has push email. At the same time, I agree its only for new customers, as those already on an unlimited data plan can't be forced to switch....how would Cingular know if we're using direct push or not (other than higher data usage) if we're NOT using an Exchange server of theirs? Also, I don't believe Cingular is going to get into the Hosted Exchange market.

This is a good day!!!

[Jerry Raia]

I think you are right about that. I got caught that way when I bought my old 6515 at the Cingular store.

[mbranscum]

I think you are right about that. I got caught that way when I bought my old 6515 at the Cingular store.

I guess new cutomers can always buy it and later cancel the higher data package. Most people don't have a clue, however, and will do whatever Cingular tells them to do. Still others don't care about the price and need additional support they offer. But, most will be corporate types who's company is footing the bill.

[guapoharry]

if there was one thing i remembered from back when i sold for tmobile, its that they take longer than cingular to get things done :) They take longer than cingular? :shocked!: Who could take longer than cingular?

Is there no synergy between T-Mobile Europe and T-Mobile US?

[Kris Kumar]

Is there no synergy between T-Mobile Europe and T-Mobile US?

You know, I am wonder the same thing. They launched SDA in Europe and then the SDA II. Then they launched the SDA in US, which is far better than the European SDA and SDA II. Why wasn't the US SDA called SDA III or SDA II-US? :?

[Jerry Raia]

:shocked!: Who could take longer than cingular?

Can you say, Verizon? :lol:

[sosnow]

Sorry for the newbie question
When the update comes out:
Does anything need to be turned on from the server side?
I know SP2 needs to be installed, bur are there settings that our IT depatment needs to change?

[Mike Temporale]

Sorry for the newbie question
When the update comes out:
Does anything need to be turned on from the server side?
I know SP2 needs to be installed, bur are there settings that our IT depatment needs to change?

Yes, you'll need to configure your Exchange server. There are plenty of documents on how to do this. Search our site and I'm sure it will turn up more than a couple.

[Jerry Raia]

It's probably just a check box. :)

[sosnow]

I don't know if it matters or not, but I've been using Direct Push Email for the last 4-5 months on Cingular with my SP5 on the $19 MediaNet unlimited plan. Works great - except for the ocasional missed call that gets routed directly to voicemail because the phone is in the middle of syncing email.

Yeah...I've been using the same rom on my 2125.

Beside the Media net plan:
How are you guys getting your corporate emails? (Good, Express, etc.?)
Are they being pushed to you or r u synching every few minutes?
Or r u guys just setting up an IMAP and synching?
Thanks

[mbranscum]

I don't know if it matters or not, but I've been using Direct Push Email for the last 4-5 months on Cingular with my SP5 on the $19 MediaNet unlimited plan. Works great - except for the ocasional missed call that gets routed directly to voicemail because the phone is in the middle of syncing email.

Yeah...I've been using the same rom on my 2125.

Beside the Media net plan:
How are you guys getting your corporate emails? (Good, Express, etc.?)
Are they being pushed to you or r u synching every few minutes?
Or r u guys just setting up an IMAP and synching?
Thanks

I'm really not a corporate type person. :wink: I use a hosted exchange that I think costs me about $20 per 6 months. There are also some free sites out there. I just foward my private accounts to the server, which pushes them on to my phone.

[sosnow]

"Cingular Wireless will offer its business customers access to corporate e-mail via Direct Push Technology, a feature of Microsoft® Windows Mobile® 5.0 with the Messaging and Security Feature Pack (MSFP) upgrade, beginning on June 19, 2006. The solution initially will be available on two of the hottest wireless devices in the market today: the Cingular 8100 series Pocket PC and Cingular 2125 Smartphone. Direct Push Technology delivers an enhanced mobile experience to organizations that use Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 by pushing updates to e-mail, calendar items, contacts and tasks as they arrive directly from the Exchange Server to the devices."

http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/images/Temporale-20050112-Cingular.gif

Here it comes finally! For those of you foaming at the mouth for Direct Push, the thing Moto left out of the Q, it may finally be here along with MSFP. It will also be available for the 8125 as well. The story talks mainly of corporate customers and new rate plans for this. I'm not sure how that translates as far as just getting the new ROM (or update if that's what it is). I suspect we will all be able to access it as the article references this link (http://www.cingular.com/microsoft)which won't be active until the June 19th.


"This link" is active for the 8125 download now. But the 2125 is not. Cingular redirects you to the HTC website for the download.

[mbranscum]

"Cingular Wireless will offer its business customers access to corporate e-mail via Direct Push Technology, a feature of Microsoft® Windows Mobile® 5.0 with the Messaging and Security Feature Pack (MSFP) upgrade, beginning on June 19, 2006. The solution initially will be available on two of the hottest wireless devices in the market today: the Cingular 8100 series Pocket PC and Cingular 2125 Smartphone. Direct Push Technology delivers an enhanced mobile experience to organizations that use Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 by pushing updates to e-mail, calendar items, contacts and tasks as they arrive directly from the Exchange Server to the devices."

http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/images/Temporale-20050112-Cingular.gif

Here it comes finally! For those of you foaming at the mouth for Direct Push, the thing Moto left out of the Q, it may finally be here along with MSFP. It will also be available for the 8125 as well. The story talks mainly of corporate customers and new rate plans for this. I'm not sure how that translates as far as just getting the new ROM (or update if that's what it is). I suspect we will all be able to access it as the article references this link (http://www.cingular.com/microsoft)which won't be active until the June 19th.


"This link" is active for the 8125 download now. But the 2125 is not. Cingular redirects you to the HTC website for the download.

This is *NOT* the new ROM. It's the same one that's been there. The new one won't be up till the 19th.

[jfreiman]

By the wording it looks like the 2125 ROM isn't ready yet. I wonder how much longer we'll have to wait?

[mbranscum]

By the wording it looks like the 2125 ROM isn't ready yet. I wonder how much longer we'll have to wait?

Both should be out on the 19th.

Intersting that over at www.xda-developers.com, some are talking about not being able to receive through push mail anymore using their 8125's with the experimental roms. Some are thinking that Cingular has started blocking certain ports for those who aren't paying for the push mail service.

I have had an experimental rom on my 2125 for several weeks. It stopped syncing on June 4 and hasn't synced since. My 8125 with identical settings can still receive mails.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I'm certainly not going to pay $10 more to get pushmail when I'm already paying $20 for medianet.

[Rocco Augusto]

Then why the extra charge? Are they saying they're gonna charge extra each month if you simply have the feature on the phone? Why would someone pay $29.99 for this when MediaNet Unlimited is $10/month cheaper?

Not sure. We'll have to find us a Cingular expert that might be able to shed some light on this pricing. Now, where could we find someone like that... ;)

Checking under the rug, none here at my place. 8)

Definitely not over here... :)

jeez, i dont know how i totally missed out on this post. alright. here is what i could gather for you guys.

:robot: resistanceisfutile

i have asked and asked and asked and asked and no one can tell me why we are charging $10 more a month for direct connect. the only thing i could gather from talking to everyone is they plan on charging more because of the huge jump in data usage. they expect that those individuals that will be using push email will come from the business world where they get a lot of email. they also appear to be trying to woo some blackberry users over to the smartphone side and $29.99 is a lot cheaper than the blackberry data plans. :(

[brianchris]

A little more information (although not much) can be found towards the bottom of this link:

http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/data_connect

I still don't know how they are going to govern this, but switching ports that Direct push functions over (as someone else suggested) may be one way.

Dying for more info (and, of course, the ROM upgrade)....

[OSUKid7]

we are charging $10 more a month for direct connect
grrr... well if that's true, I almost certainly will NOT be getting a hosted exchange account. That would be $17 more per month, verses just $7 (or $84 per year, really). That's just terrible. That's not what Cingular sold it as when they advertised the 2125 six months ago. I want my push email, and I don't want to pay more for it.

Overall I'm happy with my Cingular service, but why do they keep making my "unlimited" data plan not unlimited? That's terrible.

(On the plus side... now that I won't need push email, there's really no reason to upgrade my phone tomorrow and have to reinstall everything. :?)

[Kris Kumar]

...upgrade my phone tomorrow and have to reinstall everything. :?)

The re-install is the part I dread. I still haven't installed all the apps after I upgraded my phone couple of months ago, in fact I was supposed to re-install the ROM but got lazy.

ROM upgrades should be released on Friday, so that we have plenty of time to upgrade the device. Monday is a bad choice.

[Rocco Augusto]

im so lazy i just install everything to the storage card and have a folder that is just used to put the shortcuts to the applications in. when i reinstall i just drag those shortcuts to the start menu folder.

its a pain in the rear since everytime i open a application for the first time it wants permission to do so but it saves me a lot of time and energy :)

[Kris Kumar]

im so lazy i just install everything to the storage card and have a folder that is just used to put the shortcuts to the applications in. when i reinstall i just drag those shortcuts to the start menu folder.

So it works. In thepast I have run into issues, where applications are trying to figure out the installed path from the registry but cannot find it. :-(

[Rocco Augusto]

im so lazy i just install everything to the storage card and have a folder that is just used to put the shortcuts to the applications in. when i reinstall i just drag those shortcuts to the start menu folder.

So it works. In thepast I have run into issues, where applications are trying to figure out the installed path from the registry but cannot find it. :-(

the only app that really gives me trouble is the core pocket media player since it needs permission for all of the codecs. still works great, i just have to approve a million things ;)

[brianchris]

THE NEW ROM *appears* TO BE THERE!!!! (as of 8:33pm US pacific time, 6/18/2006)

ROM version = 2.25.11.1
ROM date = 5/11/06

Yeaahhhh!!

[Rocco Augusto]

keep in mind, the ROM mentioned above is for the 8125 Pocket PC NOT the 2125 Smartphone ;)

[brianchris]

keep in mind, the ROM mentioned above is for the 8125 Pocket PC NOT the 2125 Smartphone ;)

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! I tried so hard to be acurate and factual, and totally spaced that this was SMARTPHONE Thoughts, not PPC :oops: This thread has been much more active regarding the subject of Cingular's Direct Push for both devices, that's why I've been hanging out here.

For what its worth, my wife owns a 2125, and so I'm "waiting by proxy" for that along with you guys!

IF anyone here is interested, I can post my experiences during and after my 8125 upgrade, including whether I'm forced to change data plans to utilize Microsoft push with my Hosted Exchange......I should be upgrading either later tonight or tomorrow.

[Rocco Augusto]

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! I tried so hard to be acurate and factual, and totally spaced that this was SMARTPHONE Thoughts, not PPC :Embarassed:

im just joshing you ;) :lol:

IF anyone here is interested, I can post my experiences during and after my 8125 upgrade, including whether I'm forced to change data plans to utilize Microsoft push with my Hosted Exchange......I should be upgrading either later tonight or tomorrow.

im interested, i still cant get a straight answer at work as to what they plan on doing to make people change data plans. its to my understanding that direct push uses port 443, which is the same port as the https protocol. if they block that port people wouldnt be able to view any https sites which would be horrible for business. to be honest im really not looking forward to work tomorrow, im afriad there will be angry people as far as the eye can see. :(

[Jerry Raia]

Well what a surprise, here is the 19th and the web page (http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/microsoft) says:

"Coming soon you will be able to update your Cingular 2125 device. Check back to this location in the future for the firmware update."

Oh and the 8125 ROM file appears to be corrupted at this time.

Figures :roll:

[OSUKid7]

im interested, i still cant get a straight answer at work as to what they plan on doing to make people change data plans. its to my understanding that direct push uses port 443, which is the same port as the https protocol. if they block that port people wouldnt be able to view any https sites which would be horrible for business. to be honest im really not looking forward to work tomorrow, im afriad there will be angry people as far as the eye can see. :(
heh... yeah and right now I'm probably one of those angry people. ;) $20 is a reasonable price to pay for unlimited data.... but not if it's not unlimited. I see the point of limiting streaming protocols, but blocking push email? come on, that was advertised back in November when the 2125 came out.

Your statement that direct push uses port 443 does give me some hope, though. I can't imagine they would block https, so maybe I'll be getting a hosted Exchange account after all.

[bz999]

Hey guys,

I am just curious, my college offers OWA (exchange) to allow me to retrieve mail online.

Is there any way I can have my 2125 somewhat sync with my account??

(and... when this damn AKU2 update finally arrives.. can it automatically push new emails to my phone when recieved??)

Thanks
Matt

[Jerry Raia]

What version of Exchange are they running? Need 2003 for mobile access.

[bz999]

What version of Exchange are they running? Need 2003 for mobile access.

Seems to be:
Microsoft® Office Outlook® Web Access
for Exchange Server 2003

So maybe im in luck.. so where do i setup my phone to login to the server?? Settings>Connections??

Oh yeah, thanks for the CASE review too!!! Im still deciding.

[OSUKid7]

I am just curious, my college offers OWA (exchange) to allow me to retrieve mail online.

Is there any way I can have my 2125 somewhat sync with my account??
Your college Exchange server will have to be setup to support push email, I think.

(Un)fortunately my college doesn't give OWA/Exchange accounts to students, just staff, not that I'd want to run all my email through my college account anyway.

So I guess we're hoping for the 2125 update tomorrow then? :roll:

[Jerry Raia]

So maybe im in luck.. so where do i setup my phone to login to the server?? Settings>Connections??

Next they have to check a little box in your account that allows mobile access. For Push to work though, they have to have SP2 installed on the Exchange server. Otherwise you will have to sync manually (or scheduled).

[Jerry Raia]

So I guess we're hoping for the 2125 update tomorrow then? :roll:

With the 8125 file being corrupted I'm not holding out much hope of the 2125 ROM showing up any time soon. I was reading on another forum that someone who called HTC was told the 19th date was a mistake.

[bz999]

So maybe im in luck.. so where do i setup my phone to login to the server?? Settings>Connections??

Next they have to check a little box in your account that allows mobile access. For Push to work though, they have to have SP2 installed on the Exchange server. Otherwise you will have to sync manually (or scheduled).

I dont see an option, but i will call the IT dude at the school and get some info, because if i can have FREE push via college, versus some other plan i will.

but yeah .. when the heck is this update coming out!!! GOSH!

also, have any of you looked into headphones. I would like some cool wireless ones that i can use at the gym and stream via AKU2 when it gets out.

[Jerry Raia]

I dont see an option, but i will call the IT dude at the school and get some info, because if i can have FREE push via college, versus some other plan i will.

That part can only be done at the Exchange server itself. Not likely you could access it yourself.

[OSUKid7]

Check back soon for the download link to the required updated firmware for the 8125 and 2125. We are currently experiencing technical difficulties with the download.
:roll:
Why am I not suprised? Let's hope they get this fixed sooner rather than later.

[Rocco Augusto]

Well what a surprise, here is the 19th and the web page (http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/microsoft) says:

"Coming soon you will be able to update your Cingular 2125 device. Check back to this location in the future for the firmware update."

Oh and the 8125 ROM file appears to be corrupted at this time.

Figures :roll:

you know i stayed up to about 3:30am last night hoping to get the ROM before anyone else because I have OCD. now im tired and dissapointed :(

[bz999]

Well what a surprise, here is the 19th and the web page (http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/microsoft) says:

"Coming soon you will be able to update your Cingular 2125 device. Check back to this location in the future for the firmware update."

Oh and the 8125 ROM file appears to be corrupted at this time.

Figures :roll:

you know i stayed up to about 3:30am last night hoping to get the ROM before anyone else because I have OCD. now im tired and dissapointed :(

I was doin the same damn thing. "technical difficulties".. LOL .. well at least they got a neat image up on the page now. WAY TO GO MARKETING!! .. dropppppppping the bar .. as we speak.

[Mike Temporale]

you know i stayed up to about 3:30am last night hoping to get the ROM before anyone else because I have OCD. now im tired and dissapointed :(

Oh my... we got some serious addicts here. :lol:

[brianchris]

For anyone that's interested, you can get FREE hosted Exchange service ( http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/ ) INCLUDING Microsoft Direct Push!!! ( http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/SP2features.asp )

Only downsides are it appears to be ad driven in some manner, and, at least with their free Hosted Exchange, you apparently can't use the Outlook desktop client. I'm not sure of the specifics, because I use a different Hosted Exchange provider.

For those that are interesed, I flashed my 8125 ROM yesterday, and it went GREAT! The new ROM seems faster with lost of minor improvements, and direct push works flawlessly! It truly is amazing and worth the wait. I can tell its going to be, for me, one of those life changing technologies (such as Tivo, etc. etc.).

Since there was some debate, I was NOT forced to changing my data plan to a Microsoft Direct Push plan......direct push is working using the data plan I had (which is the original "unlimited" data plan).

Here's hoping the 2125 ROM update is released very soon!

[Jerry Raia]

Here's hoping the 2125 ROM update is released very soon!

It has been, the results so far dont seem to be very good. :cry:

[Mike Temporale]

Here's hoping the 2125 ROM update is released very soon!

http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11477 ;)

[brianchris]

Thanks guys....I was out of the loop.....I've been waiting for YEARS for Smartphone Thoughs semail blast :(

Jerry, you also have an 8125....did you update that? My update with that went great!

[Jerry Raia]

Thanks guys....I was out of the loop.....I've been waiting for YEARS for Smartphone Thoughs semail blast :(

Jerry, you also have an 8125....did you update that? My update with that went great!

The 8125 update is really good. I haven't tried the 2125 yet because the initial reports here are not so good.

[luke99s]

can't get my 2125 to connect to our exchange server. Keep getting an incorrect password prompt. are there any utillities to see what kind of communication is going on?