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Old 02-17-2009, 03:06 AM
WyattEarp
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So it sounds like you have jumped on the iPhone bandwagon and wanted to turn this whole AppStore conversation into more about the same old WM is a tired non-updated OS. Yeah, weve all heard all of this before about WM, and we either agree or disagree, but everything you mention about the AppStore is either wrong or could be done right by Microsoft if they made an AppStore.(This PocketGear thing is not IT).
Every so often people like you jump to conclusions and read way to much into what was not said or implied. So I'll make this quite simple for you. 1. I am not on any bandwagon. I use whatever device best fits my needs. 2. I wasn't trying to turn the App Store conversation in the "same old WM is tired non-updated OS". But if that's how you see it... oh well. 3. Everything I mentioned about the App Store is entirely correct in how it works and I didn't even list everything. Only Apple can fix Apple and only Microsoft can fix Microsoft. If that was to hard to understand well... sorry. 4. I'm well aware that this is PocketGear's own App Store but lets take a step back for a minute. This is going to start to cause some confusion; even if just a little. Like I said un-unified you just proved my point.

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Microsoft could keep track of CAB files and updates, it would frankly be very easy to implement. They could tie a better account to it for easy purchases. And yeah, that could bring new and more developers this way too.... I know several developers who have come in on the iPhone gold rush and are now looking at WM and Android, and...
I agree with you partly on this one. Of course they could keep track of CAB's I never said they couldn't. But tieing a better account to it is debatable unless it's similar to iTunes or the Zune Market Place anything else won't cut it. And it's good that you know developers that want to come to WM because more are needed. But at this point while not trying to be too pessimistic. There really isn't too much more new to develop.

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And as developers we're used to dealing with several resellers, working with one more Huge one isnt going to hurt us any, and hopefully they come in playing nice...Im not sure how it spreads anyone's profits??
You don't see how it spreads anyone's profits?? Well, here's something to open your eyes a little. If Microsoft's App Store ends up getting all WM users to purchase only from them then current software stores like Handango and PocketGear then go out of business. Your profits may not be hurt but the software stores will be. It's not only about you and while this may be unlikely it is a possibility worth exploring.

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And thinking that the software market on the WM side isnt held back because of our segmented retailer/distributor types is just funny. Those same "People like this" that dont buy software you actually go on to point out yourself ARE the people that are buying Applications(and yes a lot of stupid ones) on the iPhone AppStore. But once they buy those a lot of them figure out, wow, if I can get a fart app, maybe I can get a cool game or productivity app that I could actually use...
Never stated anything about a fragmented retailer/distributor anything. I was talking about how WM is marketed and that's to the business person not the consumer. Consumers may buy WM but many buy it for the wrong reasons and no they will still not but any apps. I know this because I see it every single day and the ones that go out and buy those fart apps tend to stay with stuff like that. The don't spend real amounts of money like I do on apps. Again misinterpreting what I wrote.

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And nobody is saying JUST having an AppStore is going to solve all the problems with WM... They need some big updates too.. and those updates are obviously coming... But its a piece of the puzzle!!! But it appears you have grown bitter with WM and breathe iPhone now, so.... thats cool, but it just makes it appear that you are jaded about any other improvements that WM could and will make....
Glad you know that because some really don't that's why I brought it up. Don't know how long you've been following Microsoft but nothing is ever obviously coming when it comes to them. Yes, they need some big updates but whether or not these update will be what consumers want is another issue to be debated after the arrive. Bitter not at all, a realist is more like it. Breathe? Give it a rest dude. You sound like you need to be defensive of the OS but your a developer so you have to I guess. Just save your little anicdotes for children I'm way to old for that.

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" Apple can fix those which aren't that many to begin with"

Just even stating this means you arent actually a developer and/or havent been paying attention. They are slowly plugging a few holes in the AppStore but it still has some big problems!
Yes, Apple can fix those which aren't that many to begin with. I didn't say they weren't big issues just not that many.
Nope, I am not a developer and never pretended to be one. I'm a PO, EMT and someone who loves technology and I pay lots of attention. And seeing how you a developer reacted to my post, at this point I would never purchase anything from your company nor would I advise anyone else to either. What you should have done was left my opinions as is instead of inciting a response. Or responded in a productive way instead of trying to call me out. I have never seen such an unprofessional response from a developer especially when the subject on the table was not even their product as the one you dished out here today. In any case enjoy your rant hope it was worth it for you.
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