[Birdsoft]

Surprisingly I think we are still in a world where the question is either is that an iPhone, is that a Blackberry, or is that a Palm Pilot, or a small majority that know its a WM device.... I dont think iPhone with all of its advertising has made the type of impression to take over excluvisivity in that little example...They definitely moved up though...

But like Rocco and I both conveyed, there is no way that Microsoft's Apple Developers should have been reallocated to WM as a FIRST priority , just because they are working on phone software. I really dont think they'd be any help at all (they really dont work in the same development environments or thinking, so it would be more of a mess than anything). Im sure WM7 is further than you think...

And I know iPhone turned out an OS (well converted one) in about a year. But they had full control of the single device to add enough space for the monsterous size that is the iPhone OS and locked down everything until they could get to it. And they hardcoded the device to the OS and vice versa to make it work.

But Microsoft has many many other variables involved and is obviously working very very hard on WM7. I just dont want to see it if they could chug it out in 6-9 months, they dont have the advantage of starting fresh and cutting the same corners...

And WM6.1 isnt even out for a few more days(which starts to address some of the things)...

Yeah, we know that Mobile Phone updates should work like PCs and we all agree, but Apple is the only one pulling the strings over carriers, most of the rest of the industry isnt going to go for that very quickly if at all, so we look like we are at a snails pace compared to them and we will for a while...

And some of your gripes are probably due to the phone manufacturer not writing drivers correctly or their choice of hardware and not Microsoft. But Microsoft gets the blame for not focusing on WM....

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What I think will be interesting is when the iPhone 2.0 or Pro or whatever comes out, what a lot of the iPhone users that have not fully gone "Apple Blind" think, once they have to shell out another 400++ bucks to get the high speed version and video calling and.....

You mean they can't just do that with a software update from iTunes? I have to do what with my contract?

I wonder if it will happen at about the same time as the 2.0 software update comes out to really confuse people?? And do you think data rates will go up once they all arent just on the Edge network?