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Old 10-16-2005, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by emfung
Hisham, I'm malaysian too. Thank you very much for your information.
OFFTOPIC: my wife also has a Malaysian girlfriend. If you have a Finnish friend you've spent weeks or even months with in Europe, let me know

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but not 150x faster, IIANM the limit of the interface is about 20x-24x
Well, to a certain degree. You may want to read, for example, this and this thread on these subjects.

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That's means no point of buying a high speed card?? Alamakk, waste money...
There is – if you have, for example, a high(er)-end digicam or a USB2 card reader in your desktop computer and always move hundreds of Megabytes every day off/to the card.

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What's IIANM? The pda card reader module?
if i am not mistaken


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Rule of thumb - if it's on the today screen, or runs at startup, install into RAM or File Store
I like this idea. THANK YOU THANK YOU.
Note that, by default, most Today plug-ins put themselves in RAM, even if you instruct them to be installed into the FS. You must hack them out by hand. An example is Spb Pocket Plus; but, there're dozens of more of plugins like that. You may want to read the 'relocation' and 'free up your RAM' links at Windows Mobile Technology to get a full picture of this question.


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Although you will find that your PPC will run faster without too many programs installed into RAM (this is independent of how much free RAM you actually have).
Here're some quantitive benchmarks that show this – well worth reading. Also, it's worth reading the above-mentioned Windows Mobile Technology roundups/reviews because I also pinpoint if an app installs tons of files, which may result in overall speed degradation if you're not cautious. (Affected apps are games like Fade, a great deal of Infrared remote controllers, several Today plug-ins and other systems programs that have hundreds of icons in separate files etc.)

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Basically it (relocating apps) involves a some work in the registry and modifying links. For most apps, it's a fairly basic path change. If on the other hand, it involves OLE or file registration, than it's considerably more work. Bottom line - it's a lot faster and much, much easier to uninstall and reinstall.
Got it..
Reinstalling should be done by uninstalling your apps and then, re-running the installer EXE or MSI files on the desktop. Note that the ActiveSync-based (Tools / Add/Remove Programs) relocation has a tendency to install applications in the directory that they have been first installed to, no matter what target you give to them.

After this, you may still want to manually fine-tune your RAM memory – to get rid of unnecessary help, uninstaller etc. files or to test if the app was indeed installed to the memory card or not. As has already been pointed out, a great deal of Pocket PC apps 'lie' when they (more precisely, ActiveSync) ask you about their target. No matter what you give them, they will still happily install (part of) themselves into RAM. Apps like this are, for example, older versions of Jeode, Running Voice, Spb Pocket Plus etc. The vast majority of these apps can very easily be (manually) relocated to a much less precious memory type.

I also recommend this thread.

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By the way, I tested my card with Antonv Pocket Mechanic. It turns out to be only "Read: 0.66MB/s (4.5X) and Write: 0.03MB/s (0.2X)". I'm getting a similar speed results for my old 256MB Kingston. Why is that so little?? However I noted a big difference in speed between the 2 cards when I transfer a folder containing about 1MB of files from RAM to storage card, manually. Have you tried out Pocket Mechanic? Is that reliable?
Definitely not. There're no reliable storage card benchmarker utilities. These utilities report far lower speeds than these cards are really capable of. You may want to read this (frontpaged!) article on tuning and benchmarking (for example, with PIE cache tests or simple, plain file copying in a decent file copier – definitely not in the dog-slow, built-in File Explorer!) these cards.

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I then formatted the 1 Gig card to FAT16 + cluster size 32K (as recommended by Antonv for best performance)
Well, I have results that, with some cards, are diametrically opposed to Anton's results. Please read the above article (and the article ' What do you need to know about optimizing storage card speed?' linked from it). In a word: it can not be said that 'a card will be the fastest with FAT16/32k. With some cards, it'll even be slower than with a more optimal (and, I should add, much more space-saver) file system/cluster size.

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Is that necessary to use FAT16 system file?
Definitely not. Benchmark your cards and choose the fastest file system/cluster size setting.

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I can't access the SD Card with my laptop. It needs to be reformated.
It should be able to access FAT16 cards – strange it cant. Is it able to read all FAT32 cards?

However, feel free to reformat it – you will do a lot of formatting to find out the fastest configuration.
 
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