*sigh*...let me sort out some things for you, briefly.
- As it appears that you're not familiar with the techie language: "Grandma" has nothing to do with age/gener/color/race or anything of sorts. It's just techie slang for technology impared and/or complete ignorant. Like for example the average Win$ user :twisted: )
- (Some) reasons behind my "Symbian is in a much better position" statement: 1) They sucessfully incorporated Epoc ( _very_ respectable embeeded RTOS) 2) "They been around many years" i.e. they have _many_ heavy/experienced phone manufacturers that used their platform. In case you're not familiar w/ soft. developm (especially embeeded soft) this is something no money can buy. Really. You get this kind of stuff only by sorting out many, MANY (and i really mean..MANY) bugs, debugging lines of code, software development cycles, etc...In a single word in plain english: EXPERIENCE.
- SonyEricsson and Stinger...Now _I_ start laughing. Ask your dear Andy about the local (i.e. swedish) jokes Ericsson was targeted with when they went into joint venture with M$ (aprox 4 or 5 yrs ago). The result of that partnership (this is first hand information): The use of Microsoft Exchange "as a strategic product" at several Ericsson company as mail server !!!

. *lol* And everybody ROFL-ing and pointing the finger at them when they got massively CodRed-ed and whole Ericsson companies could not even send corporate mail for days in a row. End products ? None. Mutual partnership experience: Yeah rite...Anyway, it was so bad that even the completely dumass Ericsson management took the decision to shoot down that partnership. So, SonyEricsson with Stinger ? Now THAT is the joke of the day. Really, more seasoned ppl. here already pointed out that SonyEricsson is _really_ heavy behind Symbian.
- Personal side note about /me wanting M$ powered phone. I have to (somehow shamefully) admit that I'm using for various task some M$ crap (like the InternetExploder I'm using rite now for wasting my time and continuing this flame; Or the PPC02 I'm playing with every once in a while). But using it for _work_ or really important stuff, now that will take a VERY,VERY long time. Double that, and you'll get the time until I'll buy a Stinger phone.
All in all my gut feeling (and my best bet) is that Stinger will be another "long-sighted" and "free of any ulterior motives" attempt from M$ to "INNOVATE" the mobile phone market as it was when M$ tried to use MSN to "innovate" the Internet :wink: