[Kre]

Originally Posted by yup

No, HERE is what YOU need to do: Every other off-topic post skip licking MicroSh*t a$$ and STFU.

Now really, you need to get a bit of grip and some grain of common sense. Like a plethora of ppl have pointed out before, Stinger platform is NOT mainstream stuff. In other words you won't see any time soon (tm) grandma with a Stinger powered phone, anytime soon (the "less then curtain" -- to put it mildly -- M$ attitude towards OEM being _not_ the smallest factor).

Not that I like Nokia so much better, but compared with Stinger, Symbian is _much_ more mature, proven, and used in gazillion of phones worldwide so it is in much better position than Stinger. Obviously, the 800 lb gorilla (M$), with its deep pockets and "ramming down competitors" attituted has still have some chances to burry it. But Symbian won't go down without a fight, that's for sure. And the fact that Nokia "has seen the light" and is open sourcing their developm. platform is _more_ than welcome. Now _that_ is "innovation".

Ah, and a last note: FYI, more than3 yrs ago, a phone based on a Symbian platform (i.e. Nokia 9110) could use custom WAVs as ringing signals (and it was darn cool, I had one for 3 yrs). But, given the "high end" target of those phones it didn't quite "catch" to lower end phones. And I really doubt it ever will. This segment is what (I guess) Jorgen was talking about (standardizing phone ringing signals) and this is what "got you laughing". And make you post an utterly stupid off-topic subject.

Sounds to me like you have some unresolved anger that you need to work out. No matter.

But just because Symbian has been around, you almost make it sound as if you think that no one else has a right to enter the market. You say `compared with Stinger, Symbian is much more mature, proven, and used in gazillions of phones worldwide`. Well, yeah, this is pretty obvious. But I wonder why? Could it be that Smartphone hasnt COME OUT YET?

Then you say `so *Symbian* is in a much better position than Stinger`. Why do you think this? Because of the reason you gave above? Just because a phone or technology has been around awhile doesnt automatically make it the best choice to be the reigning technology. Better technologies come along all the time. Give Smartphone a chance. It hasnt even arrived yet. You may end up liking it.

You also said `you won't see any time soon grandma with a Stinger powered phone`. So what? And exactly what age group of grandparents are you talking about here? Ive seen grandparents in their forties, if you want to get technical about it. If youre talking about someone so old they cant tie their own shoes anymore, then I would doubt youd find someone like that with any cell phone in the first place. Dont assume that because someone is in their sixties, that their minds are gone. If someone knows how to operate a cell phone period, chances are, they could operate a Smartphone. It certainly wouldnt be harder to operate than the advanced features of a lot of the current phones on the market, with their crappy DOS like WAP interfaces, that are anything but intuitive. How many grandparents do you see using those features? But from the looks of things, it would be a lot easier to navigate through the menus and features of a Smartphone, then the current crap thats out there now. But even if the older generations found this difficult, again I say, so what? No phone is meant for everybody. But its certainly a much better alternative, in terms of ease of use, to all the other garbage that exists today. Just look at the screen shots. Honestly, just how hard could a Smartphone be to use? The bottom line is, technology is going to advance whether we like it or not. Its not going to stay the way it currently is whether we like it or not. New alternatives are going to arrive whether we like it or not. Thats reality. Thats life.

You say `Stinger platform is NOT mainstream stuff`. Oh really? If the pending deal between Microsoft and SonyEricsson goes through, this phone is going to be as mainstream as any other. And what about the younger generations? Do you think theyre going to say, `ooooh, yuk, this Smartphone is so boring and stupid`, or do you think that theyre going to like the 16 bit color screen, chat, email, MP3, internet, high quality ringtone and sound effects, and gaming features better than the other crap currently on the market, which either doesnt have these things or doesnt have them implemented as nicely? Think about it. This kind of an interface and these features, whether its Microsoft or not, is the future. Not Nokia WAP crap.

Maybe these Smartphones will be more expensive when they first come out, but this would be no different than any other type of technology. Give it time, prices will drop, and everybody will choose one of these over those dreadfully boring Nokias, Motorolas, and other brands, anyday.

Microsoft entering the market with this phone will breathe some life into the industry. It certainly will put a fire under Nokias and these other manufacturers` lazy butts, especially in the States. I welcome competition. It forces companies to innovate, to create more or better features in their products. But Ill add one other thing... If what Nokia currently offers, was their vision for the future, then I welcome Microsoft to kick their butt.

Im buying a Smartphone when they arrive. Just dont come crying to me when you decide you want one.